Social Conservatives Will Run Third Party Candidate If GOP Nominates Abortion Supporter

Life Site ^ | October 2, 2007 | Hilary White

[Coleus]

"If the Republican Party nominates a pro-abortion candidate we will consider running a third-party candidate." So said a group of prominent U.S. social conservatives  alarmed at the possibility that the Republicans will nominate the pro-gay "marriage" and pro-abortion Rudolph Giuliani for President.  The New York Times reports the statement came from a break-away group at a meeting Saturday of the Council for National Policy in Salt Lake City. The statement comes as Giuliani is making a strong showing in the polls as the Republican candidate choice.

Giuliani has long held the "personally opposed but" position on abortion adopted by many Catholic political candidates supportive of abortion. This position, known as the "Cuomo dodge," was first formulated by the notorious abortion supporter and congressman-priest, Fr. Robert Drinan, and popularised in 1984 by then-New York Governor Mario Cuomo. The position has been denounced as a "deal with the devil" by faithful Catholics.  Giuliani told a group of Republican voters in South Carolina in April, "Ultimately I believe it's an individual right and a woman should make that choice." He previously stated that although he "personally opposed" abortion, "you have to leave that to a disagreement of conscience, and you have to respect the choice that somebody makes."

The conservative group at the Salt Lake City meeting included Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family and Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. The group told media they had not yet identified a candidate but that most of the participants of the smaller meeting supported the resolution.  Conservative activist Richard Viguerie, one of the meeting's participants said the issue is "beyond abortion", though that is the most visible issue. "There's a general feeling among social conservatives, as well as economic conservatives, that they have been betrayed by the Republican Party," Viguerie said.  Conservatives have warned that a Giuliani nomination could split the Republican party, in which social conservatives represent a major voting bloc, thus guaranteeing a win for the Democrat candidate. Most Republican conservatives believe that infamous abortion militant Hillary Clinton will take the Democrat nomination.

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[Eagles Talon IV]

Libs are scared shi*less of Rudy because he can win in a few blue States while fatso cannot win in any red States. It is the libs who are floating these third party stories in hopes of losing the nomination for Rudy.

They will fail and RG will be the nominee.

[sitetest]

If Mr. Giuliani is the presidential nominee of the Republican Party, I’ll vote third party.

[jonathanmo]

And YOUR comment has been debunked a million times as well...this is what Giuliani said on Fox News...

GIULIANI: That is not the critical factor. And what's important to me is to have a very intelligent, very honest, very good lawyer on the court. And he fits that category, in the same way Justice Ginsburg fit that category.

Nothing about the Constitution and Ginsburg. Oh, and how many Republicans in the Senate voted FOR Ginburg?

[RedMonqey]

I will not under any circumstances vote the Republican ticket if Rudy gets the nod.

The only difference between a Rudy administration and a Hillary is the speed which we disintegrate as a free nation.

[mimaw]

In order to beat Hillary the Republican candidate has to appeal to some of that large independent vote out there that determines elections.

[Chunga]

Should I vote for the “good ol’ boy” Republicans around here that are actually just Republicans so they can get votes? Of course not! Regardless of what few gains I may make, the losses are worse, one of them being that I have to look at myself in the mirror and say, “You helped make it this way” when those “conservatives” support liberal or authoritarian legislation.

On the contrary: The third-party voter in '92 is responsible for enabling the election of a man who

1) sold U.S. military secrets to China for campaign contributions;

2) sent American soldiers to fight in a NATO campaign on the side of Albanian Muslim extremists;

3) lied under oath in a sexual harassment lawsuit;

4) attempted to bring homosexuals openly into the U.S. Armed Forces;

5) allowed Osama Bin Laden to get away when he was in the sights of a sniper;

6) raided a family's home in Florida to send a child back to Cuba, securing a victory for Castro;

7) is responsible for ATF actions that burned women and children to death in Waco;

8) raped Juanita Broderick;

9) groped Katherine Willey in the White House;

10) came into the the possession of FBI files of his political enemies;

11) whose wife took bribes camouflaged as futures trades;

12) whose wife ordered the shredding of Vince Foster's documents at the Rose Law Firm;

13) whose wife ordered members of the Health Care Task Force to shred documents that were the target of a court probe;

14) whose wife ordered the removal of documents from Vince Foster's office and then told her aides to lie about it;

15) whose wife obstructed justice by keeping her billing records, a document sought under subpoena, in the White House residence;

16) directed Arkansas State Police to fabricate incriminating evidence Terry Reed, a political opponent;

17) conspired with David Hale and Jim McDougal to defraud the Small Business Administration;

18) conspired in an attempt to suborn perjury from Linda Tripp;

19) was complicit in Travelgate, Filegate, Whitewater and a host of other malfeasances.

And if you vote third party this time, you'll know exactly what you're potentially abetting. A non-Republican vote this time is a vote for Hillary Clinton.

Of course, you'll still be able to stick your head under a rock and say "I didn't help make it this way." It's the easiest, most irresponsible exercise of the right to vote imaginable.

[LibLieSlayer]

I agree with most of your points. rootie will not be the nominee. We will rally behind our nominee and defeat satan’s daughter. I believe!

LLS

[CDHart]

It would do Hillary a lot of good.

Carolyn

[thepresidentsbestfriend]

I actually detest one issue voters......

NOW THAT`S FUNNY because I detest people that say they actually detest one issue voters!

[thepresidentsbestfriend]

What good would a third party run do for anyone?

PERHAPS it`s just the threat of one that might make a few of the Hannity crowd think twice about voting for an abortionist??

[arderkrag]

And your third party beliefs will never come to fruition, because there are never enough third party voters to make it happen.

I'm sure that's what the Whigs said.

[arderkrag]

When you have NO FREEDOMS left... you will have your answer.

The Republican party, by and large, has no spine left to protect my freedoms at all.

[arderkrag]

And if you vote third party this time, you'll know exactly what you're potentially abetting. A non-Republican vote this time is a vote for Hillary Clinton.

Of course, you'll still be able to stick your head under a rock and say "I didn't help make it this way." It's the easiest, most irresponsible exercise of the right to vote imaginable.

Actually, it's a much higher road than the "root fer our team so they can't win!!!!! YEEEHHHAAWWW!!!" line of thought. The "easiest, most irresponsible exercise of the right to vote" is to vote for Repblicans because they are republicans. It's mindless, and it panders to all sorts of ridiculous lines of thought - fear mongering being the chief among those.

And a vote for a non-Republican is a vote for a non-Republican. Your line of thinking is completely inaccurate. It's like saying "if you don't support the idea of a wartime draft, you're for defeat."

[ZULU]

I’m not a one issue voter which is why I won;t vote for JulieAnnie simply on his acting performance after 9-11 or his clean-up of Times Square.

I won’t vote for JulieAnnie because:

1) He has a LONG history of supporting liberal Democrats against Republicans for higher office, e.g. Jim Florio in New Jersey and Mario Cuomo in New York

2) He has NO foreign policy experience - NADA

3) He is pro-abortion

4) He ran a sanctuary city for illegal invaders while Mayor of New York and refused to cooperate in enforcement of Federal Laws against illegal invaders

5) He can;t read the Constitution - the Bill of Rights and the Second Amendment in particular - a peculiar lapse for an Attorney and ex-U.S. Prosecutor

6) He’s pro-gay

7) He dressed up in drag in public and apparently found it quite amusing

8) He’s arrogant and conceited with a hardheaded

9) And most of all - he CAN’T WIN!!!! He will loose the South and the West, the Christian conservatives, the Second Amendment people, and the Catholic anti-abortion groups.

So I guess I’m not the one living in a plastic bubble.

[ZULU]

Having to choose between JulieAnnie and Hillery is like choosing between Mussolini and Hitler.

[LibLieSlayer]

You make it so easy... they have STRENGTHENED the SECOND AMENDMENT. They lowered taxes... they have done much wrong... they have done much right. dims will have us living under sharia law. I wish I could convince you of how silly you are... but that will never happen. Buy lots of aluminum foil.

LLS

[MEGoody]

There’ll be no third Party candidate unless the Dems run one.

There are third party candidates in every election. Ever hear of the Constitution Party? The Libertarian Party?

[Eagles Talon IV]

I think you know what I meant.

[LibLieSlayer]

I won’t vote for rootie... but the WOT makes a difference between him and hildebeast... having said that, I will not vote for rootie. He will not be our nominee.

LLS

[Buffalo Head]

"....it's better to lose on principle than win on compromise. Every time."

Spoken like a born loser. Effective politics is the art of compromise. High principles are wonderful for your personal life, but when you enter the political process, it would be better if you understood reality. Single issue "conservatives" could cost us this election.

Can you imagine the folly for the left if hard-corps liberals proclaimed that they wouldn't vote for anyone who wasn't for gun confiscation?

Single issue liberals who couldn't support Gore and voted for Nader, cost them the 2000 election. Please show more wisdom than the left wing kooks.