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Dixie tradition kept alive in Brazil enclave[Confederate immigrants]
The Washington Times ^ | 02 Oct 2007 | Anton Foek

Posted on 10/02/2007 1:10:01 PM PDT by BGHater

AMERICANA, Brazil

Now well past 90, Judith MacKnight Jones is suffering from Alzheimer's disease, the illness that robbed her of all of her memory, her most precious asset.

She has been lying here for the past 11 years, covered by a patchwork blanket, made from pieces her great-grandmother brought from the United States between 1865 and 1885, after the Confederacy lost the Civil War.

Unable to speak or remember now, her book "Soldado Descanso" ("Rest Soldier") is written in Portuguese, but soon will be translated into English, as the publisher thinks Americans should know about the proud history of Confederate immigrants settling in Brazil, finding a new home here but maintaining many of the traditions they brought from Alabama, Texas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Arkansas, the Carolinas and Georgia.

Her daughter-in-law, Heloisa Jones, said patchwork is only one of the values the Americans have brought.

This blanket is not just any patchwork, she said, "these pieces are very old and reflect a valuable tradition," she said.

"Over a century old and symbolizing our heritage, the flight from our homelands, it is extremely important to keep it that way. I teach my children and grandchildren the American values our ancestors have brought with them. And I expect them to teach their children and grandchildren the same," she said.

Every spring, hundreds of the descendants of the soldiers who lost the war against the North go to the cemetery they call O Campo. They party and meet dressed in traditional costumes, staging shows, singing Southern songs like "When the Saints Come Marching In" or "Oh Susannah," playing banjos and blowing trumpets, the men eventually getting drunk on home-brewed beer.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; assimilation; brazil; civilwar; confederacy; confederado; confederate; dixie; history; irrationality; latinamerica; southern
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To: wideawake
You get the last word this time, my friend. I'm too wrapped up in The Death of the Grown-Up by Diana West to argue anymore! Have a good evening!
161 posted on 10/03/2007 3:15:48 PM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations.)
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To: PeaRidge
I guess it depends on one’s point of view, but it seems to me like the main thing was the secessionists did not want to play the role of loyal opposition. A republic cannot survive if political setbacks are made into nation breakers.
162 posted on 10/03/2007 3:56:51 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: DirtyPigpen

Good. Thank you. I appreciate the clarification.


163 posted on 10/03/2007 6:52:28 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Non-Sequitur

Steve Newton’s “Lost for the Cause” does a thorough breakdown of the Confederate draft (to the extent the surviving figures allow), and finds that the number of draftees was always much less than the number of volunteers. Best estimates have the total number of Confederate soldiers at around 1 million, and many joined up prior to the institution of the draft. The head of the Confederate Conscription Bureau, General Preston, estimated that about 1/3 of the army additions after April 1862 were draftees.


164 posted on 10/04/2007 6:29:03 AM PDT by CivilWarguy (CivilWarGuy)
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To: CivilWarguy
The mistake was mine, I should have said one quarter to one third rather than the higher figures. However, since in April 1862 the confederate government also forcibly extended the enlistments of all the current soldiers for the duration of the war one could say that a much higher percentage of the confederate army than that were there because they had to be.

By way of comparison, Union conscription provided only 6 to 8 percent of all Union soldiers and the North never resorted to extending enlistments. The Union army could have faded away almost completely in the summer of 1864 when the 3 year enlistments ran out, and the fact that it didn't is a testament to the dedication of the Union soldier.

165 posted on 10/04/2007 6:41:31 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Don’t be a neo-Lincolnist imbecile.

4/1861: “It is becoming too evident, that so far as a vicious,...demoralized administration possesses power, the hideous horrors of civil war are about to be forced upon the country…the popular sentiment is everywhere peaceful, and the time cannot be distant when the shameful manner in which Mr. Lincoln and his cabinet are sacrificing the welfare of the land and betraying its most sacred interests, will call forth an outbreak of indignation before which even the Republican fanaticism and intolerance will tremble.”

166 posted on 10/04/2007 7:49:35 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: CivilWarguy

If I may add a clarification, it has been said:

“However, since in April 1862 the confederate government also forcibly extended the enlistments of all the current soldiers for the duration of the war one could say that a much higher percentage of the confederate army than that were there because they had to be.”

Is that a true conclusion? Not really. Truthfully, the Union had their own Draft Act, which also forced northerners into conscription in July 1863, and March, July, and December of 1864.

The United States War Department data shows that of the 249,259 18 to 35 year old men whose names were drawn for the draft, only about 6% served. The rest evaded by paying commutation or hiring a substitute. (Confederate legislation banned substitution in 1863).

There does not appear to be a case for a “testament to the dedication of the Union soldier” since 94% of the Union draftees refused to serve.


167 posted on 10/04/2007 8:20:24 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge
Don’t be a neo-Lincolnist imbecile.

I may be a neo-Lincolnist and I may be an imbecile, but I'm not a neo-Lincolnite imbecile. Imbecility and asmiration of Lincoln do not go together.

4/1861: “It is becoming too evident, that so far as a vicious,...demoralized administration possesses power, the hideous horrors of civil war are about to be forced upon the country…the popular sentiment is everywhere peaceful, and the time cannot be distant when the shameful manner in which Mr. Lincoln and his cabinet are sacrificing the welfare of the land and betraying its most sacred interests, will call forth an outbreak of indignation before which even the Republican fanaticism and intolerance will tremble.”

There was no Civil War when the secessions started. The rebs forced the Civil War. The rebs did not trust the Constitution. Lincoln made it clear he would abide by the Constitution. In unison with notthern Democrats and more moderate Republicans, the hotheads could have stopped any strong action. It was just that the rebs wanted it all and wanted it all their way. Compromise and acceptance of the fact that you can't always get all you want are characteristics required of the mature public that democratic republics must have. The rebs of 1860 demonstrated that they did not have that civic maturity.

168 posted on 10/04/2007 8:28:43 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Constantine XIII
We?ll, I?m sure they fought well for the central and western parts anyway. East Tennessee was by and large happy to stay part of the greatest nation on earth, thank you very much. ;)

True the Eastern part of Tennessee were filled with Unionist Republicans and remains today as but not enough to secede from the state and remain in the Union as a state.

As West Virginia accomplished.
169 posted on 10/04/2007 9:07:46 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: RedMonqey

Oh, you know how those hifalutin’ city slickers in Nashville and Memphis have always looked down on us lowly hillbillies. *wink*


170 posted on 10/04/2007 9:25:44 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
" How far back should ancestors be honored, in your view? (rhetorical)."

Well speaking rhetorical, as far as historical possible.

Practically, our family history only goes so far with oral traditions.
As an amateur historian, matching one's family's ancestor to historical events as the Civil War and knowing what travails and hardships they endured helps tremendously to honor what they accomplished. . They did not always do what we consider now "the right thing" but then again our descendants may judge us harshly by their standards.
171 posted on 10/04/2007 9:26:28 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: BuglerTex
I am the last of my blood to have known such. Most outside the south cannot claim as *family* - for generations - those of another race.

That time, alas, has passed.


All too true. That's something they can't put in the history books and when you try to explain it to non Southerners they look as if you are lying or a fool
172 posted on 10/04/2007 9:38:38 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: cartoonistx
<The better part of the rights of states contained in the Constitution was blotted out by the blood spilled in the Civil War!

Agreed.
173 posted on 10/04/2007 9:45:49 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: wideawake

Sorry that “ painfully awkward archaisms” and “ abysmal grammar” bother you Miss Grundee.


174 posted on 10/04/2007 9:48:35 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: wideawake
I've never understood why having friends among a designated group is considered to be dispositive proof of ill feelings toward that group.

You need a trusted friend to explain that one to you.

You are so right. That is the only reason Southerner?s stood up to the US Gov?t in 1862. At least they got another 23 years.

You made a broad baseless statement against all southerners not just the Brazilian Southerners and I replied to that slander.
175 posted on 10/04/2007 10:04:53 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: Constantine XIII
Oh, you know how those hifalutin? city slickers in Nashville and Memphis have always looked down on us lowly hillbillies. *wink*

Yeah we got manners.

We wash our feet before propping them up on the supper table. (grins)
176 posted on 10/04/2007 10:10:55 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: RedMonqey

^_^


177 posted on 10/04/2007 10:30:48 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: RedMonqey
You need a trusted friend to explain that one to you.

Nonanswer.

You made a broad baseless statement against all southerners not just the Brazilian Southerners and I replied to that slander.

No, I didn't. Are you unable to read who authored which post you're responding to?

178 posted on 10/05/2007 4:42:13 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Admiration of Lincoln was rare at the time:

4/8/1861 On this date, The New York Herald published the following:

“Secrecy is only the defense of the weak, and is always calculated to arouse suspicion.

“It is, therefore, a bad sign when we find the administration of this country hiding its designs, as the ostrich hides his head, in the face of proceedings that are the theme of universal comment and anxious speculation from Florida to Maine.

“We find the government chartering and dispatching transports laden with troops and stores, and equipping the entire naval force at its command with the utmost haste, and without letting the public know the purpose or destination for which they are intended.

“To the ominous and painful uncertainly occasioned by these warlike movements, we have added an increased distrust of the administration, consequent on the surmise that there is trouble, almost amounting to a split, in the Cabinet.”

Very rare, indeed.

179 posted on 10/05/2007 6:32:48 AM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge
Is that a true conclusion? Not really. Truthfully, the Union had their own Draft Act, which also forced northerners into conscription in July 1863, and March, July, and December of 1864

But the Union never usurped state control over their own militia by extending enlistments. Union regiments were raised by the states for a set period, and once those enlistments were up the regiments were allowed to go home. The soldiers were encouraged to re-enlist, and fortunately a high percentage did, but if they didn't then they went home. Confederate soldiers had no such option.

The United States War Department data shows that of the 249,259 18 to 35 year old men whose names were drawn for the draft, only about 6% served. The rest evaded by paying commutation or hiring a substitute. (Confederate legislation banned substitution in 1863).

Confederate legislation also eventually drafted boys as young as 17 and men as old as 50, so even with removing the substitute laws they seem to have had problems enticing people into the ranks.

There does not appear to be a case for a “testament to the dedication of the Union soldier” since 94% of the Union draftees refused to serve.

The testament was, had you bothered to read it, the fact that when the Union soldiers had a chance to go home after their enlistment was up the overwhelming majority chose to stay. Unlike the confederate soldier, the didn't have to have the government forcibly extend their enlistment. One of the reasons why, unlike the confederate army, the U.S. didn't need to draft 50 year old men to keep the ranks populated.

180 posted on 10/05/2007 6:51:49 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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