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Insurgent ‘body count’ records released
Stars & Stripes ^ | October 1, 2007 | Joseph Giordino and Lisa Burgess

Posted on 09/30/2007 7:38:55 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/30/2007 7:38:58 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
I'd like to see the counts reversed regarding captured and killed.

Just saying if I had my preference.

5.56mm

2 posted on 09/30/2007 7:43:02 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Kaslin

next!


3 posted on 09/30/2007 7:44:36 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: Kaslin
I had begun to think that this was the first war in history that the press only acknowledged the numbers of our dead or wounded.
4 posted on 09/30/2007 7:47:37 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Kaslin
Through August 2007, those figures show, 18,832 suspected insurgents had been reported killed, 5,196 injured and 119,752 arrested by U.S. and coalition forces.

A total of 143,780 have been either killed, injured or captured.

God bless all our brave troops.

5 posted on 09/30/2007 7:47:56 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Kaslin
I'm sure there will be complaints about the high dead-to-wounded ratio.

Hey, stuff happens.
6 posted on 09/30/2007 7:48:46 PM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: M Kehoe

I reckon that’s 1,355,904 virgins or goats or whatever.

Nice work, and congratulations to our armed forces.


7 posted on 09/30/2007 7:49:47 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Kaslin; Admin Moderator

This great news about the casualties among the terrorist enemy deserve to be in the “Breaking News Section”.


8 posted on 09/30/2007 7:50:41 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: All

Nice shootin boys , nice shootin.


9 posted on 09/30/2007 7:53:41 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Unknowing

You baaad boy. ;-)

10 posted on 09/30/2007 7:55:31 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: Thrownatbirth

No doubt the moonbats will complain


11 posted on 09/30/2007 7:55:51 PM PDT by Kaslin (The Surge has worked and the li(e)berals know it)
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To: LS

Interesting numbers...


12 posted on 09/30/2007 8:02:45 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: jveritas

Indeed


13 posted on 09/30/2007 8:05:03 PM PDT by Kaslin (The Surge has worked and the li(e)berals know it)
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To: Kaslin

At least Stars & Gripes is reporting it. AP will either carry it, or spike it.

Smart money is on “spike”.


14 posted on 09/30/2007 8:17:49 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Kaslin
And of those detained probably 90% were let go (Statistic is figurative).

Sad but true reality is that while CNN, CBS, and foreign media beat the Abu Gharib story, because it fits into their political or ideological agenda, we for all practical purposes could hardly interrogate, were not allowed to detain suspects past certain benchmark times....... Hell, it’s harder for a US soldier in Iraq to detain an Iraqi than a COP a civilian in the US.

Over filled prisons, courts over run with cases, and the desire to appear as benevolent with occasional mass releases has led thousands who should have felt a rope around their neck to be let go. It is understandable how a soldier under certain circumstances might want to take justice into their own hands.

15 posted on 09/30/2007 8:49:37 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Thrownatbirth
"I'm sure there will be complaints about the high dead-to-wounded ratio."

Once the grunts experience the fact that wounded or captured Jihadists get patched and/or released to fight again -- they take "measures".

But you're right -- the KIA to WIA is way out of "normal"...
But then again, these assholes aren't "normal" in any regard.

16 posted on 09/30/2007 9:14:57 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Kaslin

Gen. Anderson is a friend of mine.

Keep on mowing ‘em down, boys! Hooah!


17 posted on 09/30/2007 9:46:02 PM PDT by Tex Pete
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To: Tex Pete

Let’s go for 20,000 dead by the end of the year. I like nice round numbers.

The figures for Afghanistan should be impressive because every time the Taliban attacks en masse, they become a mass of bodies. The last battle had over 165 KIA. The wounded, if they escaped, were possibly about the same number.

Nothing like rackin’ and stackin’ them.

One problem with these figures, where does WIA fit in with the overall figures? Are they included in Detained, or are they based on blood-trails, reports from captured enemy, or KIA to WIA ratios?

Anyone know the answer?


18 posted on 09/30/2007 10:27:40 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Madmax, the Grinning Reaper)
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To: Kaslin; jveritas

Looking at how small the numbers of the “insurgency” was until April 2004 (number of killed, wounded and detained implies level of activity), when John Kerry just about secured the nomination and started his shameful flip-flop campaign against Operation Iraqi Freedom, only few months before he “reported for duty” in August 2004 - shows vividly that Democrats’ anti-Iraqi Freedom campaign gave aid and comfort to the enemy starting right at that moment.

Also, while numbers of kills and detainees went up somewhat starting around the end of 2006, just before the election, the “surge” was not yet in force or a “policy”, so it’s obvious that “insurgents” were responsible for picking up the violence levels to help Democrats in their election campaign and drive to “redeploy” our troops from Iraq. The numbers and reports of violence dropped steeply a month ago when it became obvious that Democrats failed and are not getting the benefits from Iraq.

The conclusions are then that the military “surge” in itself (which only fully started recently) is likely not as much responsible for the good things that happened since October 2006 in Iraq (though Gen. Petraeus did a great job there) but more importantly, David Petraeus was particularly far better on Capitol Hill than his predecessor George Casey, and that’s where we were losing the “war” - on political front in Washington, not on military front in Iraq). What we needed was not just a great General, but a great spokesman for our cause in Iraq and Petraeus delivered the way previous Commanders did not. That should not be underestimated, and is characteristic of truly great leaders.

Bravo, and keep up the good work!


19 posted on 09/30/2007 11:14:45 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Max Friedman

Good question, I was wondering, too. FWIW, my opinion is that they would be separate numbers (from after action reports) and not be included in Detained - it’s hard to imagine that none of the Detained were not wounded.


20 posted on 09/30/2007 11:21:32 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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