[RetiredArmy]

Iran and Syria are scared s**tless. They know now these things don’t work and if Israel can bomb Syria the way they did, the US Navy is going to have a field day in Iran. They did not know what was going on till the first big boom went off. No notice at all. Way to go Israel.

[Hot Tabasco]

Apparently the Israelis were able to blind these systems electronically.

I don't know if puchasing an extended warranty is appropriate in this case but they should have at least bargained for a 6 month money back guarantee.....

[Southack]

We don’t have enough information.

For instance, we don’t know if the Israelis blinded the Syrian air defences *electronically* (which would be catastrophic for Russia’s technical reputation), or if Israel used its new stealth UCAV plus some planted F15 drop tanks, or if Israel used commandos on the ground to somehow disable Syria’s air defenses, or if Israel used the Mossad to simply make a phone call to each air defense site in Syria saying that they were ordered to turn off their systems for a “Test” at such and such a time.

“This is Bassher Assad’s Office, you will turn off your radar at 6 AM.”

The method used against Syria matters in regard to the viability of Iran’s air defenses.

[Larry381]

fifty of these systems had been sold to the United Arab Emirates

You can be sure that a week after this junk was sold to the UAE that American engineers were taking one of these systems apart and examining it.

[puppypusher]

I just hope their SAM’s operate as bad as reported.If a shooting war does break out between the U.S. and Iran it should be a shooting gallery of exploding targets.

Hopefully one for the good guys.

[free_life]

Gee why didn’t allah warn them? And these morons want to rule the world.

This ‘great’ allah they talk about sure is ineffective. Muslim forces always seem to lose. Hey maybe you guys should switch. The Christian God is not a loser like your mooooon god’ette.

[BBell]

[Vince Ferrer]

Russia made the sale to Syria, despite $13.4 billion still owned for past purchases. Russia forgave most (73 percent) of the old debt, and is taking some of the balance in goods. In return, Syria is able to buy $400 million worth of anti-aircraft systems, mainly the self-propelled Pantsir-S1.

Syria isn't saying anything, nor are the Israelis, but Iranian officers are complaining openly that they have been had by the Russians. The Iranians bought Russian equipment based on assurances that the gear would detect and shoot down Israeli warplanes.

It isn't every day that both parties in a deal get ripped off.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

The Iranians bought Russian equipment based on assurances that the gear would detect and shoot down Israeli warplanes.

HA HA

[FastCoyote]

“In return, Syria is able to buy $400 million worth of anti-aircraft systems, mainly the self-propelled Pantsir-S1. This is a mobile system, each vehicle carries radar, two 30mm cannon and twelve Tunguska missiles. The missiles have a twenty kilometer range, the radar a 30 kilometer range. The missile can hit targets at up to 26,000 feet. The 30mm cannon is effective up to 10,000 feet. The vehicle carrying all this weighs 20 tons and has a crew of three.”

Without effective air support, these things are likely to stick out like sore thumbs. Expensive paperweights.