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Archaeologists Probe Secret Tunnels in California
Associated Press ^ | September 27, 2007 | Unknown

Posted on 09/27/2007 2:46:36 PM PDT by decimon

FRESNO, Calif. — Tunnels run beneath Chinatown in Fresno, Calif.: brick-walled passages that were once home to people and activities that couldn't be mentioned aboveground.

Rick Lew knows, because he walked the passages as a child, entering through a trapdoor in his grandfather's liquor store.

"There was a nightlife you couldn't see from the streets," he said.

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As late as the 1950s, when Lew was a boy, Chinatown was still thriving — both its respectable establishments and as its shadier side.

He remembers visiting the underground world with his father, first passing though a dark basement before descending into a lit tunnel with an arched roof and enough space for two people to pass by each other. There were people there he recognized from the neighborhood. And then there were the glamorous women whose images remain seared in his memory decades later.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: fresno; godsgravesglyphs; tunnels
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To: decimon

Let me know if they find Jimmy Hoffa down there.

:0)


21 posted on 09/27/2007 3:11:13 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: decimon
And then there were the glamorous women whose images remain seared in his memory decades later.


22 posted on 09/27/2007 3:13:17 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: decimon

Hsu would have known ?


23 posted on 09/27/2007 3:15:33 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: aruanan

Mrs. steveo has the hots for Kurt big time


24 posted on 09/27/2007 3:18:41 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: saganite
Bah. I saw all this documented in that great historically accurate movie, Big Trouble in Little China.

That's Jake with me.

25 posted on 09/27/2007 3:20:38 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Here’s to the Army and Navy, and the battles they have won. Here’s to America’s colors, the colors that never run.
May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather


26 posted on 09/27/2007 3:23:09 PM PDT by saganite
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To: biscuit jane
Sounds great ! ...Let’s vacation in Fresno and visit the underground tunnels!

Actually you can visit underground tunnels in Fresno (just further away from downtown Fresno)...tho these tunnels have been closed on & off over the years:

It's the Forestiere Underground Gardens which were built over a 40-year period (1906-1946) by Baldasare Forestiere, designer and builder.

Here's one online description: "Located a short distance east of Highway 99, It is a complex of underground caverns, grottos, patios and garden courts encircling the underground home of Baldasare Forestiere. The various sections are inter-connected with underground passageways and promenades together with an auto tunnel approximately 800 feet long that winds through the gardens. These passageways are embellished with planters of various shapes and sizes, many with built-in recessed seats of hardpan, mortar and cement. There are columns, arches and domes of hardpan--a native sedimentary stone that is pervasive in the area. Some ceilings are vaulted and carved like inverted tea cups. Others have skylights adorned with redwood arbors and pergolas with cascading grapevines. Over his living areas, Forestiere built skylights that were covered in the winter with glass to keep out the rain, yet allow in natural light. To support the great mass of earth and to give permanence to his earthen sculptings, Forestiere used Roman arches, columns and domes. Hardpan, mortar and cement are used not only for structural purposes, but also for textural variety and beautification. A wide variety of trees were planted throughout the gardens, some of them rare. Some of the trees are planted as deep as 22 feet below ground level. Many citrus trees were grafted with a variety of citrus, one tree having some seven different varieties. Varieties that Forestiere planted include Almond, Pomegranate, Italian Pear, Bartlett Pear, Olive, Persimmon, Avocado, Loquat, Quince, Carob, Jujube, Arbutus, Black Fig, Tangerine, Grapefruit, Orange, Kumquat, Lemon, Date Palm and Mulberry. A small fish pond, crossed by a foot bridge, was created in the garden court off the kitchen and bedrooms. Also located in the gardens was an aquarium with a circular glass bottom through which tropical fish could be observed. On ground level there was a small lake, which has subsequently been filled in for a parking lot."

"Historical significance: The Forestiere Underground Gardens were designed and hand-sculpted by Baldasare Forestiere, a Sicilian immigrant. A vineyardist and horticulturalist, Forestiere began in the early 1900s to carve and sculpt a thoroughly unique underground retreat to escape the San Joaquin Valley's excessive heat. After nearly forty years with hand tools and persistent effort, he succeeded in creating a cool subterranean complex fashioned after the 'visions stored in my mind.' Forestiere worked without blueprints or plans, following only his creative instincts and aesthetic impulses. He continued expanding and modifying the gardens throughout his life. Baldasare Forestiere died in 1946 at the age of sixty-seven. After his death, the Underground Gardens were opened to the public as a museum."

27 posted on 09/27/2007 3:23:31 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Bigh4u2
The inability to find Jimmy Hoffa is proof that he never existed,

either that, or he got shipped to Syria.

28 posted on 09/27/2007 3:26:48 PM PDT by SmithL (I don't do Barf Alerts, you're old enough to read and decide for yourself)
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To: Colofornian; biscuit jane

(Oh, and needless to say, what can be admired today about Forestiere’s innovative design would never be approved in a significantly less libertarian culture of today...Today’s bureaucracy would have shut Forestiere down in two seconds!)


29 posted on 09/27/2007 3:26:53 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: biscuit jane

Wow! Just like Cu Chi! and right here in America!


30 posted on 09/27/2007 3:28:35 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Colofornian
(Oh, and needless to say, what can be admired today about Forestiere’s innovative design would never be approved in a significantly less libertarian culture of today...Today’s bureaucracy would have shut Forestiere down in two seconds!)

But raised his property tax for the improvements made.

31 posted on 09/27/2007 3:30:07 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Fun thread. BMFLR.


32 posted on 09/27/2007 3:35:42 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: decimon

Wow! I lived in Fresno as a kid. My mother’s youngest sister was a tour guide at Underground Gardens back in the early 1960s.

I don’t ever remember anyone talking about Chinatown tunnels.

There were those Armenian caves, though :)


33 posted on 09/27/2007 3:38:35 PM PDT by sdillard
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To: steveo

To me Kurt has always been a very sympathetic character, sort of a happier Bruce Willis. Did you like Overboard?


34 posted on 09/27/2007 3:40:58 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: decimon
And then there were the glamorous women whose images remain seared in his memory decades later.

If they were women, what were they doing in a tunnel?
35 posted on 09/27/2007 3:41:42 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: decimon

We ran into a few tunnels of this sort when doing the utility relocation for B.A.R.T. in Oakland’s chinese neighborhood, in the mid 60s.


36 posted on 09/27/2007 3:59:18 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: editor-surveyor
We ran into a few tunnels of this sort when doing the utility relocation for B.A.R.T. in Oakland’s chinese neighborhood, in the mid 60s.

Did anything come of that?

37 posted on 09/27/2007 4:05:09 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

They got filled with two-sack concrete slurry.


38 posted on 09/27/2007 4:08:00 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: editor-surveyor
They got filled with two-sack concrete slurry.

For future archaeologists to figure out. :-)

39 posted on 09/27/2007 4:12:02 PM PDT by decimon
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To: cmsgop
So this is where Margret Cho lives.......

No, this is about the underGROUND. The Krakken lives under the SEA.

40 posted on 09/27/2007 4:12:53 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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