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Bin Laden may have just escaped U.S. forces
msnbc ^ | 9-26-07

Posted on 09/26/2007 6:15:15 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne

Bin Laden may have just escaped U.S. forces August mission in Tora Bora almost snared 'high value target'

A little more than a month ago, with the anniversary of Sept. 11 approaching and fears of a new al Qaeda attack rising, some U.S. intelligence and military analysts thought they had found one of the world’s two most wanted men just where they last saw them six years ago.

For three days and nights — between Aug. 14 and 16 — U.S. and Afghanistan forces pounded the mountain caves in Tora Bora, the same caves where Osama Bin Laden had hidden out and then fled in late 2001 after U.S. forces drove al Qaeda out of Afghanistan cities. Ultimately, however, U.S. forces failed to find Bin Laden or his deputy, Ayman al Zawahiri, even though their attacks left dozens of al Qaeda and Taliban dead.

What happened this time? Military officials admit there were unidentified "planning and coordination problems" even before it got to execution, “primarily between the operators and the generals who give the go-orders” added an intelligence official. A company of the 82nd Airborne was brought in since a Ranger team trained in special operations was not available. But the combination of the “dark side” — the SEALs — and the conventional — the 82nd Airborne — didn't work. "They didn't gel," said the military official. There was "a lack of responsiveness to the intelligence and a lack of aggressiveness."

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TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 82ndairborne; afghanistan; alqaeda; binladen; francona; gwot; manhunt; michaelsheehan; mikesheehan; oef; rickfrancona; seals; sheehan; sixthanniversary; specialforces; specialops; speculation; torabora; ubl
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Conventional forces (and their risk adverse Gen's/JAGs) constantly strectching our OODA loop....and AQ HVTs continue to operate within in it....
1 posted on 09/26/2007 6:15:26 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix

Osama is dead Jim.

And has been for a looooong time.


2 posted on 09/26/2007 6:16:49 PM PDT by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: DevSix

Osama is dead Jim.

And has been for a looooong time.


3 posted on 09/26/2007 6:17:00 PM PDT by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: DevSix

MSNBC - Fake news.


4 posted on 09/26/2007 6:18:11 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: tdewey10

Seems to me that we need to just flatten the entire area out when we have a “good idea” where he is. Collateral damage - you bet! Wipe ‘em out - those tribal groups are sympathizers and supporters responsible for killing our guys and afghany fighters.


5 posted on 09/26/2007 6:18:30 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: tdewey10

Too bad we can not kill Bin Laden more than once though.


6 posted on 09/26/2007 6:18:36 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( my opinions do not represent the opinions of the management at Free Republic, they are mine alone.)
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To: DevSix
......even though their attacks left dozens of al Qaeda and Taliban dead

Sounds like the operation had some success.

7 posted on 09/26/2007 6:19:13 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Poser

“MSNBC - Fake news.”

No lie. What is this “may have” crap? Ridiculous.


8 posted on 09/26/2007 6:21:50 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: DevSix

Our troops will get the evil subhuman, they will get him.


9 posted on 09/26/2007 6:22:15 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: tdewey10
No, he's alive (as is Zawahrir, M.Omar, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and another half-dozen HVTs we've been hunting in the Stan/Pak border region for the past 5 years)....

But we'll get each one of them.....in time... (Just as we did to Saddam and Zarqawi, both of which, many kept insisting they were dead or didn't even exist...until we actually killed them).

10 posted on 09/26/2007 6:23:24 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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"a lack of responsiveness to the intelligence and a lack of aggressiveness."

Maybe they didn't want some general deciding they should be tried for murdering Bin Laden.

11 posted on 09/26/2007 6:23:29 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: DevSix

Well Dev I see our forum naysayers are out in force tonight....so many here will eat crow someday...


12 posted on 09/26/2007 6:24:53 PM PDT by Dog
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To: AmericanMade1776
Too bad we can not kill Bin Laden more than once though.

Sure we can. Clone him and kill him and reclone him and rekill him.............

13 posted on 09/26/2007 6:29:54 PM PDT by umgud
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To: DevSix; U S Army EOD
Just for old times sake.
14 posted on 09/26/2007 6:32:10 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: DevSix
...constantly strectching our OODA loop....and AQ HVT Pardon my stupidity, but what does that mean??? I find it hard to believe that Obama I mean Osama, and/or Ayman al-Zawahiri would still be around Tora Bora.
15 posted on 09/26/2007 6:34:38 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: devolve; DevSix; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; bitt
The walking dead


16 posted on 09/26/2007 6:34:51 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: DevSix; MaestroLC; sofaman; Cannoneer No. 4; Cindy

ping

Hey Dev, didn’t you just post that Mike S article?


17 posted on 09/26/2007 6:36:35 PM PDT by AliVeritas (No gays in Iran. Where men are men, women are beaten and sheep are nervous. HA)
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To: rdl6989; DevSix

Oops never mind, I didn’t read all of it.


18 posted on 09/26/2007 6:37:24 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: DevSix

This raghead’s taking a dirt nap.

Get over it.


19 posted on 09/26/2007 6:40:36 PM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: DevSix

It doesn’t get much better than watching Keith Olbermann speak fawningly with Michael Scheuer, the former CIA officer in charge of locating Osama bin Laden. He sets him up for answers criticizing the Bush administration by the simple fact that they have not found/killed/captured by the time of the interview. Completely overlooking the fact that from 1996-1999 he was in charge of locating OBL himself, and failed completely in that responsibility. It’s right up there with calling in the oracle himself (John Dean) and neglecting to mention his guilty plea to a felony obstruction of justice charge (in order to avoid many felony counts of obstruction, perjury, etc.) in order to allow him more time to pour vitriol all over the Bush administration. Sheesh.


20 posted on 09/26/2007 6:44:20 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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