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Scheuer has his own ego and agenda (without a doubt).....But his knowledge and thoughts on AQ (especially in Stan/Pak) should always be reviewed (not necessarily always listened to).

He makes much sense here for the most part....On the realities we face....Though I believe the "time equation" for AQ HVTs is starting to turn in our favor now.....It was always in their's in the short-run...

1 posted on 09/26/2007 5:55:27 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix

Michael Scheuer has turned into a huge Ron Paul supporter.


2 posted on 09/26/2007 6:05:54 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: DevSix

Why not just put a $1 billion bounty on his head? It would have been cheaper and done long ago.


5 posted on 09/26/2007 6:14:15 PM PDT by motor_racer (Open war is upon you, whether you would risk it or not.)
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To: DevSix

> ... Osama bin Laden remains free, healthy and safe
> enough to produce audio- and videotapes ...

Poof. There goes the cred.
Binny is dead.

Anyone who flaps his yap about the recent tape
being proof of anything, has to respond to the
reported fatal flaws - video freeze during all
the mentions of recent events.


6 posted on 09/26/2007 6:16:18 PM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: DevSix

Bin Ladin is dead. What’s left of him is stuck on a cave wall in Tora Bora. I don’t believe the “videos”. I DO believe that they NEED for the nutjobs to think he is still alive.

He is not. An ego that big HAS to show itself in a way that NO can mistake that it is him. And they have failed that.


8 posted on 09/26/2007 6:18:26 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: DevSix

I think Osama’s dead as a doornail. That toy GI Joe the Iraqi insurgents had claimed to “capture” last year looked more convincing than the recently morphed Bin Laden.


9 posted on 09/26/2007 6:20:08 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: DevSix
More than six years after the September 11 attacks, Osama bin Laden remains free, healthy and safe enough to produce audio- and videotapes that dominate the international media at the times of his choosing

Scheuer supplies us no reason to believe this. The recent videotape was an obvious fake. So tell me absent pretending that videotape is real, what is the reason to believe that OBL is even alive?

The answers are several, each is compelling, and together they suggest that the U.S.-led coalition's military and intelligence forces are too over-tasked and spread far too thin to have more than a slim chance of capturing or killing bin Laden and his senior lieutenants.

Another possible answer is that maybe Osama bin Laden is already dead. It's hard to capture let alone kill someone who is already dead.

Of course, OBL may not be dead. But I know of no good reason to believe that he is not dead. Scheuer apparently doesn't either.

The first factor is the issue of topography. Few U.S. citizens or Europeans have any idea of what the terrain of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border looks like

Here Scheuer assumes that not only is OBL alive but that Scheuer knows where OBL is living ("the Afghanistan-Pakistan border"). I don't know why OBL-is-alive people are so quick to assume they nevertheless know almost exactly where he is. Why couldn't he be in, oh, Yemen? Is there some law of physics that prevents OBL from going anywhere other than Afghanistan or Pakistan?

I have a reason for making this point. People who insist that OBL is alive, and criticize our government for not having gotten him, seem to envision that all that is necessary is to search the Afghan.-Paki. border region more carefully.

I would just like to point out that this would not work if OBL is actually somewhere else. And people who assume OBL is alive can't, logically speaking, also assume he is a stationary object.

Bin Laden and his lieutenants appear to currently reside in a region dominated on both sides of the border by the Pashtun tribes.

Source?

and those who comment on the effort—including the present author—must admit that they are commenting and analyzing on the basis of informed speculation, common sense and historical precedent.

Indeed.

So again, what's the reason to think OBL draws breath?

Nevertheless, there are several good reasons that make Waziristan an unlikely top choice as a hiding spot for bin Laden and his lieutenants. [..] As a result, bin Laden would have to be unintelligent to stay in Waziristan in the face of his enemies' providing him with credible and detailed intelligence about their focus and intentions.

Actually this section is informative and I suppose that Scheuer has convinced me that, if OBL were alive, he wouldn't be in Waziristan.

My followup-question to the people who assume he's alive, then, would be this: in a more general sense the entire Western commentariat and establishment has made no secret of their belief that OBL lives more or less permanently "somewhere near the Afghanistan-Pakistan border". Doesn't it follow, then, that OBL would have to be equally stupid to stay there? Seriously, why can't he go to Iran, or Yemen, or...oh, I don't know, Nepal? What force prevents him from exiting the magical boundary of Pakistan/Afganistan?

While based on the region's history and informed speculation, the northeastern Afghan areas of Konar province and Nuristan and the adjacent Bajaur Agency in Pakistan lend themselves far better to bin Laden's security needs: [..]

Again, a pretty convincing case is made here that OBL would hide in one of these areas (if he were alive).

The fourth and final factor is the lack of resources devoted to the hunt. Given Afghanistan's sheer size and extraordinarily mountainous terrain, the current level of forces available to the U.S.-led coalition appears inadequate to perform all the tasks it has been assigned. In addition to eliminating bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and al-Qaeda, for example, the coalition's forces are being asked to keep President Karzai's government in power, rebuild the country's economy and transportation infrastructure, help organize a democratic political system, defeat the growing Taliban-led insurgency and eliminate the world's largest heroin industry.

Yes, our military is finite. This is clearly George Bush's fault. Also, if we hadn't invaded Iraq, we'd have an infinite military.

That force seems inadequate for the tasks assigned to it, and may well be outnumbered by the manpower involved in the growing Islamist insurgency.

Perhaps so. But the relevance of this military-finiteness is dubious to the issue of finding/capturing OBL, if either of the following is true:

1. OBL isn't in the "Pakistan/Afghanistan border area" at all,

2. OBL isn't alive in the first place.

and I don't think we have compelling evidence that both 1. and 2. are false. If 1. or 2. is true, then we could pour a 10 zillion man army into Afghanistan, and it wouldn't matter. People - like Scheuer- who insist/insinuate that this is what we need to do, are implicitly assuming that both 1. and 2. are false.

And they do not have good reason to do so.

p.s. Although, DevSix, I know your position on the issue differs from mine. Any updates by the way?

10 posted on 09/26/2007 6:24:17 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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Why couldn’t the Allies find one short Oliver Hardy looking character in Germany during WWII or one really short squinty-eyed Jap in Japan during the same period?????? Unless I miss my guess, the fat lady hasn’t sung yet ....
13 posted on 09/26/2007 7:01:01 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress - Mark Twain")
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To: DevSix

He’s dead, but they don’t want to tell us. They know it makes us look bad that we can’t find him. So it’s not likely they will tell us, and spoil their fun. Better to make us look bad to the world.


16 posted on 09/26/2007 7:22:05 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Deport 'em all.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

Ron Paul supporter ping.


27 posted on 09/26/2007 8:49:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 12, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DevSix

Has it occured to anyone that perhaps the U.S. government and other Western countries do NOT want to catch him?


28 posted on 09/26/2007 8:50:43 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: DevSix

You forgot the Barf Alert. He may be knowledgable from a factual perspective, which places him above most MSM hacks, but he has little true understanding.


29 posted on 09/26/2007 9:31:46 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Waldo

32 posted on 09/27/2007 10:40:38 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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