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THE UGLY TRUTHS THAT NO ONE…..ESPECIALLY MY OPPONENTS ….WANT TO TALK ABOUT!
Team Tancredo/email ^ | 9/25/07 | Tom Tancredo

Posted on 09/25/2007 12:26:25 PM PDT by SittinYonder

THE UGLY TRUTHS THAT NO ONE…..ESPECIALLY MY OPPONENTS ….WANT TO TALK ABOUT!

Dear Sittin,

I just returned yesterday from a great three-day campaign swing through New Hampshire. Thanks, as always, for helping make our campaign possible!

Here’s what really struck me on this trip: how much my audiences appreciated it when I spoke to them about some ugly truths that no other candidate, in either party, is willing to address.

Some of these ugly truths?

For starters, the fact that we as Americans are rapidly losing our national identity, our national culture and our linguistic unity!

You and I know this is true. We see it every day, where we work, in our politics, and in our schools. (I talked to the folks in New Hampshire about a program in Oregon, where the state public school system is cooperating with education authorities in Mexico in order to offer Hispanic students in Oregon a Spanish-language curriculum that tracks with the curriculum they have in Mexico! Oregon taxpayer dollars at work!)

As deadly serious as these assaults on our culture and our national identity are, not a single other presidential candidate is even willing to talk about what is happening to our nation, and who is responsible!

That is an absolute tragedy…..and it is one of the reasons I am so committed to continuing to take our campaign’s message to the voters. The Beltway political establishment, its media and my opponents want to avert their eyes from what is happening to our nation, but I won’t let them!

I would really appreciate it if you could make a special contribution to our campaign today, to help give us the resources we need to continue to talk to the voters about the issues that I believe are critical to the survival of our nation. I can tell you that this is what the voters want to hear from candidates for president…..not Fred Thompson trotting out more one-liners or Rudy Giuliani talking, incessantly, about 9/11!

I deeply hope you can help with a special contribution today to help me make sure that we keep the issues of illegal immigration, amnesty and the preservation of our national identity front and center in this Republican presidential race! Thanks again, for your tremendous support and friendship.

Tom Tancredo

P.S. Recently, when he met with President George W. Bush, Mexican President Calderon made a statement to the effect that “Mexico has no borders……Mexico is wherever Mexicans are.” Needless to say, President Bush had nothing to say in response. Isn’t it time we had a president willing to push back and tell the Mexicans that for us, a border means business…..and that their country does NOT exist outside of its borders? Please try to send back a special contribution today so I can keep fighting for the values you and I hold dear!


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KEYWORDS: aliens; demagogue; immigrantlist; immigration; tancredo
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To: SittinYonder
Isn’t it time we had a president willing to push back

I dislike seemingly rhetorical questions. So...
Why does those willing to push have to be President?
Why can't a President be a talented diplomat, who is ready and willing to unleash others to push for him?
When couldn't this question be asked? And if it is always true, then why is it any more meaningful to ask it now than, say, in 4 or 8 years?

41 posted on 09/25/2007 6:32:06 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Since I don’t want MSM to pick the president for me, I contributed to Hunter’s campaign, sent letters to editors, and am going to call talk shows.


42 posted on 09/25/2007 6:33:34 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: wideawake; Baladas
- Baladas in 1880.

There are two significant differences between immigration in the past and what we're seeing now.

1. Social Services that legal citizens and legal immigrants pay for but illegal immigrants utilize at a higher rate. Those services, and the burden on legal citizens to support those services, did not exist in 1880. You came here and worked your way to prosperity, you didn't have the government shifting other people's wealth to your support.

2. With immigration waves in the past, in most cases, the second generation assimilated with and added to the culture of America. But that's not happening with the second generation. Instead, we offer them services in their language from press 1 for English up to and including special teachers who teach "English as a Second Language."

The current wave of illegal immigrants are being set up, by our government and by themselves, to fail in future generations. The majority of the children of the illegal immigrants will be a burden on our nation's taxpayers. And as long as the services exist for a divided population, it will remain so.

Comparing the current wave of illegal immigrants to immigrants of the past is intellectually dishonest.

43 posted on 09/25/2007 6:53:08 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: wideawake; Baladas; Radix; antisocial
Catholics have never been suicide bombers in this country - but some German Protestants have been - the Haymarket terrorist bombers were from Northern Germany.

The unknown bomber's act resounded nationwide. Public opinion was instantly galvanized against the radical left, resulting in the first "Red Scare" in America. In a climate of political paranoia fueled by the popular press, the police arrested eight prominent Chicago anarchists and charged them with conspiracy to murder. The eight were tried before Judge Joseph E. Gary in the Circuit Court of Cook County. Although no evidence emerged to tie any of the men to the bombing, the jury returned a verdict of guilty after deliberating for less than three hours. The court sentenced Oscar Neebe to fifteen years in the penitentiary and the others to death by hanging.

From Wikipedia: August Spies was born in Germany in 1855 and emigrated to America in 1872 with his mother, Christine, and his five siblings, Henry, Kenny, Maggie, Willy, and Adolph. His father had died in 1871.

From Wikipedia: George Engel was born in Cassel, Germany in 1836 to a impoversished family with three other children. His father, Konrad, a mason and bricklayer, died when he was less than two years old. His mother dies when he was twelve leaving him an orphan. He lived for a short time with a foster family, but at the age of 14 was forced to look for work. He was apprenticed to a shoemaker, but was unable to afford the dues. He travelled to Frankfort and finally found work as a painter's apprentice. He travelled around Germany working, and in 1868 opened a business of his own. He married the same year, but found that the economic conditions in Germany made survival difficult, and so decided to follow his boyhood dream of emigrating to the United States. He left Germany in 1872 arriving first in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in January 1873 where he worked in a sugar refinery. In 1874 he left Philadelphia and moved to Chicago, Illinois, where he later, in 1876, was to open his own toyshop.

From Wikipedia: Albert Parsons was born on June 20, 1848 in Montgomery, Alabama to Samuel Parsons (?-1853) of Maine. His mother was a Tompkins-Broadwell of New Jersey and she died in 1850. They moved to Montgomery, Alabama where Samuel started a shoe and leather factory and they had ten children. One step brother was [William Henry Parsons] {1826-1907}. Parsons called his brother a "general". William H. Parsons was the Colonel of the 12th Regiment, Texas Cavalry {Parson's Mounted Volunteers}.

From Wikipedia: Adolph Fischer emigrated to the United States in 1873 at the age of 15. He became an apprentice compositor in his brother, William's printing shop in Little Rock, Arkansas. Later, in 1879, he moved to St. Louis, Missouri, where he joined the German Typographical Union and in 1881, married Johanna Pfauntz (they would have three children -- one daughter and two sons).


You are making things up. They were all legal immigrants to the U.S. All were charged and hanged with very little evidence to support the claim that they were the bombers. Your specious claim that they were "terrorists from Nothern Germany" is so easily debunked as to render your argument totally faulty.

44 posted on 09/25/2007 6:59:43 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Sun

Thank you for your real support for a good man. Attention keyboard warriors: send letters, money and voice opinions on the media! We like to do a thing called “FReeping” where you take off work to counter-protest those who don’t work while putting dabs of Vaporub in your nose because they literally are the great unwashed.


45 posted on 09/25/2007 7:19:26 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: SittinYonder
I’d love to see Tom in the White house. Not just for his correct way of thinking, but also because he is a good man told never to darken the door. The scum of the earth has been welcomed there with open arms, but not a good American. It’s an example of how our government is treating all good Americans.
46 posted on 09/25/2007 10:44:22 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: SittinYonder
"Nor is it necessary to bring in foreigners to fill up any occasional vacancy in a country; for such vacancy (if the laws are good) will soon be filled by natural generation."

So wrote Benjamin Franklin in his 1751 "Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind and the Peopling of Countries," an extract from a larger pamphlet published in London in 1760.

Just some food for thought.

And yes, I got the quote off primary source material from my American Economic History professor at The University.

47 posted on 09/25/2007 11:22:22 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: raybbr
You are making things up.

Everything I have stated is factual.

They were all legal immigrants to the U.S.

Who claimed they weren't? That was my whole point.

All were charged and hanged with very little evidence to support the claim that they were the bombers.

So, it was all a big conspiracy and the government railroaded them as part of some big coverup - right? Are you a contributor to PrisonPlanet?

Your specious claim that they were "terrorists from Nothern Germany" is so easily debunked as to render your argument totally faulty.

They were from Northern Germany (except Parsons, of course), and they were terrorists. There's nothing to debunk, unless one is a conspriacy theorists who believes that the Pinkertons and not the terrorists were behind the bombing.

Get a grip, dude.

48 posted on 09/26/2007 5:20:44 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: Radix
Is that some sort of suggestion that they were suicide bombers in other countries?

Not really - but in Ireland, Spain and Italy various terror types have occasionally claimed membership.

49 posted on 09/26/2007 5:23:42 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake; Baladas; stephenjohnbanker; arnoldpalmerfan; M203M4; Millee; EternalVigilance; ...
As deadly serious as these assaults on our culture and our national identity are...

As a proud, card-carrying member of at least three ethnic groups about whom this was said (and let's face it, more or less accurately), I certainly claim a unique persepective on illegal immigration.

The difference between then and now is definitely the old "Chinese vs. European" argument. The country more or less successfully handled 6 million Italians over a 75-100 yar period. Not to mention the Irish, the Germans, and Eastern Europeans of various sorts. Maybe a total of 50 Million people over a 150-year period. Could we have handled 200 Million Chinamen arriving over 50 years? I doubt it.

The reason all of these immigrant oddments were more or less successfully turned into Americans was that no one group had overwhelming numbers, except in their neighborhood. So once they travelled half-a-mile, it was English-speaking territory (unless you lived in a mill town and inadvertantly wandered into Hungarian territory, Little Italy, or that part of town where all the churches have an onion on top). And there was no NO social safety net. Unless you became a citizen and could demonstrate that you could read and write English, you couldn't vote. (Except maybe in Chicago, where many Poles who arrived here legally were taught it was normal to awake before dawn on Election Day to vote 5 times in different precincts, before voting where you lived. Of course this quaint custom has been updated for illegal Mexicans, and not only in Chicago. And thanks to mod-tech, they needn't show up to be counted. BTW,it is probable more Mexicans showed up illegally last month than all the Poles who ever came to the US in 100 years.)

Yet, despite these obvious remarks, everyone opposed to real immigration reform insists upon equating earlier waves of immigration with the Latino-ization of the US. Really dumb. Illegal Mexicans already outnumber the African-Americans. Combine them with their legal American Citizen offspring, and they already outnumber anything else in the US that could reasonably be called an "ethnic group," including all three or four of mine combined and doubled!

If the Tanc and Dunc were to build their fence tonight and locked down the border, or at least ran it as a border, this will still be a majority Latin-American country within 150 years. ¿Comprendes?

So there is a part of the problem that Tanc and Dunc are not addressing: I agree that part (1) is stopping the flow. I haven't a clue about what to do about part (2), i.e. How do we American-ize what has become America's largest identifiable population block?

Does anyone else? That ends my remarks on this topic for today.

50 posted on 09/26/2007 6:25:17 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Teddy K's 'Immigration Reform Act' of 1965. ¡Grácias, Borracho!)
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To: SittinYonder

Tanc and Hunter are truly doing the work that congress won’t do!!!!


51 posted on 09/26/2007 7:02:49 AM PDT by FlashBack (WoundedWarriorProject.Org/MoveAmericaForward.Org/ProudPatriots.Org)
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To: SittinYonder
about a program in Oregon, where the state public school system is cooperating with education authorities in Mexico in order to offer Hispanic students in Oregon a Spanish-language curriculum that tracks with the curriculum they have in Mexico! Oregon taxpayer dollars at work!

And that is exactly what they are doing in Austin Texas as well. The state public school system is cooperating with education authorities in Mexico To place Hispanic students in Austin, Texas into a Spanish-language curriculum that is sent to the Austin Schools FROM Mexico! TEXAS taxpayer dollars at work!

This is the result of krap like Plyler v. Doe 457 U.S. 202. The SC forced the State of Texas to spend U.S. taxpayer money on educating (for free of course) children that live in mexico as well as children of illegal aliens that live in the u.S. illegally. Now that includes children that were born in the u.S and in mexico!

52 posted on 09/26/2007 7:03:59 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: SittinYonder

and yet this person had zero traction in the election.

He should be front and center with the Dream Act AMNESTY II on the floor today.

He could do a paul revere moment by calling citizens “to their phones and emails” to flood the senate.


53 posted on 09/26/2007 9:44:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Kenny Bunk

“Yet, despite these obvious remarks, everyone opposed to real immigration reform insists upon equating earlier waves of immigration with the Latino-ization of the US. Really dumb. Illegal Mexicans already outnumber the African-Americans. Combine them with their legal American Citizen offspring, and they already outnumber anything else in the US that could reasonably be called an “ethnic group,” including all three or four of mine combined and doubled!

If the Tanc and Dunc were to build their fence tonight and locked down the border, or at least ran it as a border, this will still be a majority Latin-American country within 150 years. ¿Comprendes?”

Very well said!


54 posted on 09/26/2007 9:45:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (B)
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To: wideawake
So, it was all a big conspiracy and the government railroaded them as part of some big coverup - right? Are you a contributor to PrisonPlanet?

Why get personal?

Everything I read says the trial was a farce and the evidence was very weak.

They were from Northern Germany (except Parsons, of course), and they were terrorists. There's nothing to debunk, unless one is a conspriacy theorists who believes that the Pinkertons and not the terrorists were behind the bombing.

You attempted to mislead in you original post about the "terrorists" who were from northern Germany. Half of them emigrated when they were children.

I have a grip. I am tired of people like you making excuses for illegals.

55 posted on 09/26/2007 6:24:02 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr

“William H. Parsons was the Colonel of the 12th Regiment, Texas Cavalry {Parson’s Mounted Volunteers}.”

My Great Grand uncle was a sargent in Co.F of Parson’s Mounted Volunteers.


56 posted on 09/27/2007 7:23:51 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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