FRED LOVES FEDERALISM

NY Post ^ | September 24, 2007 | Jacob Sullum

[presidio9]

One of the reasons libertarians (and particularly libertarians who fester around this site) disgust me more than liberals do is the deceitful way they fail to present themselves. Sullum is senior editor of the libertarian magazine Reason. Neither he not the NY Post identifies himself as such.

[mnehring]

So, now they accuse Thompson of being pro-life (finally).. notice how the attacks change depending on the audience.

[presidio9]

The link to the article is here:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09242007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/fred_loves_federalism.htm

Note that the NY Post generally backs Rooty, who is a libertarian except for gun control.

[Jim Robinson]

Rooty is libertarian? Bwahahahhahahahaaha!

[presidio9]

Rooty is libertarian? Bwahahahhahahahaaha!

Socially yes. On other issues, you'll have to wait, because he turned his cell phone off, and he can't remember WHAT he thinks anymore. The isolationists inhabit the Ron Paul wing, but there are just as many conservative isolationists.

[lesser_satan]

Sorry, Ruity is no libertarian by ANY definition. He’s a gun-grabber, and he banned smoking on private property, and those are just two of his numerous nanny-stater qualifications.

[kevkrom]

Guiliani is a libertarian’s worst nightmare. He has a strong authoritarian streak, and a history of capriciousness about letting it manifest.

[Jim Robinson]

He’s a power grabbing authoritarian liberal.

[Gabz]

I don’t like Guiliani for a variey of reason, but you can’t lay the blame for the smoker ban on him, that was his successor Bloominidiot.

[presidio9]

He’s a gun-grabber, and he banned smoking on private property, and those are just two of his numerous nanny-stater qualifications.

The smoking ban belongs to Mike Bloomberg.

[presidio9]

He’s a power grabbing authoritarian liberal.

A character flaw that lies at the heart of most successful libertarians (and liberals, and communists). You do understand that deep down Ron Paul knows for certain what is best for each and every one of us, don't you?

[Condor51]

****Note that the NY Post generally backs Rooty, who is a libertarian except for gun control.****

uh did you maybe mean 'Libertine'?
I think that fits him better:

• One who acts without moral restraint (and he ain't no Conservative).
• One who defies established religious precepts

In any case Rooty is no libertarian. He's an autocratic power hungry control freak. Who as mayor had a very bad habit of ignoring most laws, the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution in general.

he also may be slightly 'unhinged'. Google 'Rudy and Ferrets'.

[Condor51]

Oops, my formatting got goofed up????

Oh well...

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

Rooty, who is a libertarian except for gun control.

Maybe libertine, but the only people he's libertarian for are himself and his partner-of-the-moment.

[trisham]

Note that the NY Post generally backs Rooty, who is a libertarian except for gun control.

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I confess I am puzzled by your remark.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Note that the NY Post generally backs Rooty, who is a libertarian except for gun control.

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Rudy is a big-government thug.

[presidio9]

Maybe libertine, but the only people he's libertarian for are himself and his partner-of-the-moment.

Right. And gays. And women who want to have an abortion. And illegal aliens. And business owners. And people who believe in free trade, and parents who believe in school choice, And taxpayers. And others. But except for these few, you're right: Rooty couldn't be less libertarian.

Geeze, what is it with all of you people this morning: Are you that determined to defend the libertarian name from Rooty, or are you just apple-polishing?

[TheThirdRuffian]

Rotty is no libertarian.

He has a proven track record of forcing down acceptance of gays and abortion onto the states, private companies, and people, along with grabbing guns and restricting Christian speech (on abortion, gays, and Islam, for example).

He’s a fine Democrat, but a Democrat nonetheless.

[W04Man]

It's called:

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[TKDietz]

“You do understand that deep down Ron Paul knows for certain what is best for each and every one of us, don’t you?”

That’s not libertarian, that’s what you see from liberals and big government nanny state loving quasi conservatives. Libertarians believe in personal responsibility and leaving people alone as long as they don’t hurt other people. I’m not a Libertarian and do not agree with some of the things they push for, but this attribute you are imposing on Ron Paul is not a libertarian attribute. It’s something common in the two main parties.