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FRED LOVES FEDERALISM
NY Post ^ | September 24, 2007 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 09/24/2007 6:31:31 AM PDT by presidio9

IN 1995, the U.S. Su preme Court over turned a federal law that banned gun possession near schools. For the first time since the New Deal, the court ruled that Congress had exceeded its constitutional authority to regulate interstate commerce.

A year later, Congress passed the same law again, this time specifying that a defendant can be found guilty of carrying a gun in a school zone only if the weapon "has moved in" or "otherwise affects" interstate or foreign commerce. While 72 of his fellow senators pretended to believe this requirement rendered the law constitutional, Fred Thompson voted against the transparent ruse.

It wasn't the only time Thompson, now a candidate for the GOP presidential nomination, found himself on the losing end of a lopsided vote to assert authority Congress doesn't have. With some notable exceptions, the Tennessee Republican's Senate record suggests he may be that D.C. rarity: a politician who means what he says, at least when it comes to the division of powers between the federal government and the states.

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The biggest challenge to Thompson's federalism probably has been the temptation to support socially conservative measures that exceed congressional authority.

Thompson backed a federal ban on human cloning and voted to prohibit "partial birth" abortion, under the same absurd pretext he rejected in the Gun-Free School Zones Act: that the abortion law applies to abortions "in or affecting" interstate commerce.

Regarding gay marriage, Thompson has stuck closer to his principles, opposing a federal ban and saying the matter should be decided by state legislatures. But he recently muddied the waters by

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fred; fredthompson; liberaltarianism
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One of the reasons libertarians (and particularly libertarians who fester around this site) disgust me more than liberals do is the deceitful way they fail to present themselves. Sullum is senior editor of the libertarian magazine Reason. Neither he not the NY Post identifies himself as such.
1 posted on 09/24/2007 6:31:32 AM PDT by presidio9
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So, now they accuse Thompson of being pro-life (finally).. notice how the attacks change depending on the audience.
2 posted on 09/24/2007 6:38:42 AM PDT by mnehring (Thompson/Hunter 08 -- Fred08.com - The adults have joined the race.)
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The link to the article is here:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09242007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/fred_loves_federalism.htm

Note that the NY Post generally backs Rooty, who is a libertarian except for gun control.


3 posted on 09/24/2007 6:40:54 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Rooty is libertarian? Bwahahahhahahahaaha!


4 posted on 09/24/2007 6:42:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Rooty is libertarian? Bwahahahhahahahaaha!

Socially yes. On other issues, you'll have to wait, because he turned his cell phone off, and he can't remember WHAT he thinks anymore. The isolationists inhabit the Ron Paul wing, but there are just as many conservative isolationists.

5 posted on 09/24/2007 6:47:12 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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Sorry, Ruity is no libertarian by ANY definition. He’s a gun-grabber, and he banned smoking on private property, and those are just two of his numerous nanny-stater qualifications.


6 posted on 09/24/2007 6:49:52 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: presidio9

Guiliani is a libertarian’s worst nightmare. He has a strong authoritarian streak, and a history of capriciousness about letting it manifest.


7 posted on 09/24/2007 6:51:31 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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To: presidio9

He’s a power grabbing authoritarian liberal.


8 posted on 09/24/2007 6:51:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: lesser_satan

I don’t like Guiliani for a variey of reason, but you can’t lay the blame for the smoker ban on him, that was his successor Bloominidiot.


9 posted on 09/24/2007 6:52:27 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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He’s a gun-grabber, and he banned smoking on private property, and those are just two of his numerous nanny-stater qualifications.

The smoking ban belongs to Mike Bloomberg.

10 posted on 09/24/2007 6:52:33 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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He’s a power grabbing authoritarian liberal.

A character flaw that lies at the heart of most successful libertarians (and liberals, and communists). You do understand that deep down Ron Paul knows for certain what is best for each and every one of us, don't you?

11 posted on 09/24/2007 6:54:59 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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****Note that the NY Post generally backs Rooty, who is a libertarian except for gun control.****

uh did you maybe mean 'Libertine'?
I think that fits him better:

In any case Rooty is no libertarian. He's an autocratic power hungry control freak. Who as mayor had a very bad habit of ignoring most laws, the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution in general.

he also may be slightly 'unhinged'. Google 'Rudy and Ferrets'.

12 posted on 09/24/2007 7:01:28 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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Oops, my formatting got goofed up????

Oh well...


13 posted on 09/24/2007 7:02:40 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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Rooty, who is a libertarian except for gun control.

Maybe libertine, but the only people he's libertarian for are himself and his partner-of-the-moment.

14 posted on 09/24/2007 7:03:57 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Write. Phone. Fax. Demand answers. Demand questions!!)
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Note that the NY Post generally backs Rooty, who is a libertarian except for gun control.

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I confess I am puzzled by your remark.

15 posted on 09/24/2007 7:07:52 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: presidio9

Note that the NY Post generally backs Rooty, who is a libertarian except for gun control.


Rudy is a big-government thug.


16 posted on 09/24/2007 7:11:31 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast; Condor51
Maybe libertine, but the only people he's libertarian for are himself and his partner-of-the-moment.

Right. And gays. And women who want to have an abortion. And illegal aliens. And business owners. And people who believe in free trade, and parents who believe in school choice, And taxpayers. And others. But except for these few, you're right: Rooty couldn't be less libertarian.

Geeze, what is it with all of you people this morning: Are you that determined to defend the libertarian name from Rooty, or are you just apple-polishing?

17 posted on 09/24/2007 7:15:19 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9

Rotty is no libertarian.

He has a proven track record of forcing down acceptance of gays and abortion onto the states, private companies, and people, along with grabbing guns and restricting Christian speech (on abortion, gays, and Islam, for example).

He’s a fine Democrat, but a Democrat nonetheless.


18 posted on 09/24/2007 7:18:11 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian
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To: presidio9
It's called:

FRED VETS, SIGN UP TODAY AT:

19 posted on 09/24/2007 7:19:47 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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“You do understand that deep down Ron Paul knows for certain what is best for each and every one of us, don’t you?”

That’s not libertarian, that’s what you see from liberals and big government nanny state loving quasi conservatives. Libertarians believe in personal responsibility and leaving people alone as long as they don’t hurt other people. I’m not a Libertarian and do not agree with some of the things they push for, but this attribute you are imposing on Ron Paul is not a libertarian attribute. It’s something common in the two main parties.


20 posted on 09/24/2007 7:23:24 AM PDT by TKDietz
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