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1 posted on 09/22/2007 7:18:57 PM PDT by netvictory
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Linder Announces 65th Co-Sponsor For FairTax Bill (64th signed 9/10/07)
2 posted on 09/22/2007 7:26:24 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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Aren’t the Democrats trying to pass a tax increase they’re calling the “Fairer Tax”? /sarc


3 posted on 09/22/2007 7:28:15 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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What is the over/under for the amount of time before the attacks begin?


4 posted on 09/22/2007 7:29:21 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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Thanks anyway but I’ll bet on Rush’s accuracy.


7 posted on 09/22/2007 7:34:30 PM PDT by traderrob6
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Home schooling and the number of private schools increase because education is consider an investment and not tax under the Fairtax.

Yes; the site FairTax.org has a good document on the impact of the FairTax on education at http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/TheImpactOfTheFairTaxOnEducation.pdf.

9 posted on 09/22/2007 7:49:38 PM PDT by snowsislander
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Well .. the fairtax might produce all that stuff .. but I don’t believe it would catch El Rusbo off guard.


10 posted on 09/22/2007 7:49:41 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America: THE GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth!)
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This is the misguided ranting of someone, and I’ve known several of the type, who:

1) Are jealous of anyone’s success other than their own
2) Want to be the only one who is “right”

A lot of gold bugs are like this.


11 posted on 09/22/2007 7:49:50 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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Christian tithing increases because people now have 22.65% to 34.65% more spending money in their paychecks.

Now there's a load of crap!! FairTax does nothing but shift tax liabiliy to the end user and if you think businesses are going to provide wholesale price reductions to consumers you know nothing about business.

12 posted on 09/22/2007 7:51:44 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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And then the whole thing crashes when the Democrats and free spending Republicans realize that they still need the income tax after all, in addition fair tax.

When the economy slows, they raise the fair tax to pay for socialized medicine and universal preschool.


16 posted on 09/22/2007 8:07:41 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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Oooh, such a picturesque world you present... My predictions: 22% of small businesses go under in the first two months of FairTax as all utilities, rent, leases are taxed at a 30% rate, followed by half of small business dying within the first year. Credit card transactions come with a built in fee to cover the tax portion of the bill as remaining small businesses try to not lose any more money.

As small business represents the largest segment of employment, the economy immediately spirals into the largest recession in modern US history. New home sales tank as the 30% tax immediately improves the value of any used property. Used car lots become the thing to invest in as new cars overnight go up in price by 30%. Employer provided health insurance immediately tanks as that too goes up 30% overnight.

On the plus side, an incredible resurgence in the value of not making disposable products and re-creating the appliance repair market as repairing an item finally once again becomes cheaper than replacing it. Imports drop dramatically as people seek out repairable products, and look more to durability than to price.

Economies in the most liberal of states with the most stringent of requirements for employers tank the hardest, especially in RomneyCareLand where required health insurance no longer has the stick of denial of personal exemption from tax returns - it's cheaper to not worry about the exemption than it is to pay the tax on health care.

And six months in, Congress is faced with an incredible flood of cash, the largest they've ever had, as the ill thought out FairTax rate proves to far exceed government expenditures, leading to even more socialization with a New New Deal supporting liberals to one of the largest landslides in election history as people throw out the people who brought this inanely huge tax rate onto every purchase, everywhere.

17 posted on 09/22/2007 8:14:55 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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Who are you? Are you a commentator?
19 posted on 09/22/2007 8:18:27 PM PDT by elizabetty (Don't Taze Me Bro')
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lets see:

Democrats demand a ever increasing PREBATE to adjust for cost of living EVERY SINGLE ELECTION CYCLE.

Every single business now has a NEW BURDEN of being a sales tax collector for the federal government.

There is a whole new federal bureacracy swelling the ranks of the federal employee union.

Illegal aliens sue to obtain their “justice” share of their prebate.

Democrats push for a prohibition of prebate for those who earn more than 50 thousand dollars.

Busniesses flood OUT f the USA because of the absurd tax burden.

State income and sales taxes are 100% unaffected.

The REALIZED tax burden to the average citizen jumps above 60% when totalled.

Seniors who planed for retirement are penalized as their tax exempt retirement expenditures on goods and services are taxed at rates higher than if they had done nothing.

Retirement planing goes EVEN LOWER. (why bother)

Outsourcing expands as corporations flee to spend their now taxed service dollars ANYWHERE else.

== == == ======

The fair sales tax is a snake oil scam and worse than the bad system we have now.

If anything the sum of its parts is WORSE than the individual elements taken seperatly. (The prebate is the biggest boneheaded idea and about as harmless as “social security is only a supplement not a pension”.)

The pundits and leaders are WISE to stay FAR away from this delusional wet dream.

(oh and for those who advocate it....scientology likes it)


21 posted on 09/22/2007 8:21:35 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Three new predictions.

George Soros commits suicide.

Divorce is cut in half because American families now have 22.65% to 34.65% more spending money in their paychecks and are starting to learn how to save. Focus on the Family’s, Dr. Dobson, repents of evolution and accepts the Bible’s account of creation.

The most effective sign seen in front of George Tiller’s Clinic, “Don’t Abort Your Prebate Check”.


38 posted on 09/23/2007 12:11:28 AM PDT by netvictory
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The Fair Tax is not fair and it will never happen. The basic problem is, it does not terminate the existing tax laws before enacting the new law.
41 posted on 09/23/2007 3:12:29 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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There's a lot of appeal to the FairTax, most particularly the promise it holds out for the abolition of the IRS and its anti-Constitutional privileges. But one must try to look at the bad as well as the good:

I think I'd support the FairTax, but I'd also accept a Constitutionally fixed Flat Tax a la Steve Forbes, provided we could guarantee that no ball-hidden-under-the-jersey loophole for increasing it or adding other taxes to it lurked behind it.

Don't let the best be the enemy of the good, guys and dolls.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Eternity Road

42 posted on 09/23/2007 3:28:32 AM PDT by fporretto (This tagline is programming you in ways that will not be apparent for years. Forget! Forget!)
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Please tell me this article is satire : )

In some ways I like the fair tax because it seems to be functionally equivalent to the VAT, but I will never, never, never support it unless the amendment to the constitution for income taxes is repealed, first.

The last thing in the world that I want to see is two tax systems. Yes I know the fair taxers want to do away with the income tax, but this is just a bill, like any others before congress. It can be modified and changed 10 minutes after it has been passed.

50 posted on 09/23/2007 6:44:22 AM PDT by LeGrande (Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)
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I contend the FASTEST way to bring about tax reform is to eliminate withholding. Give the worker his ENTIRE check, along with a bill for the taxes owed to local, state, and the federal govts., and address to where the checks need to be mailed (just like businesses have to do now).

This would give the people some idea just how MUCH taxes they are really paying.

THEN, the next time some elected official tries to raise taxes, he may not live long enough to get off the podium....

54 posted on 09/23/2007 7:03:14 AM PDT by dirtbiker (I'm a liberal's worst nightmare: a redneck with a pickup, a library card, and a conceal carry permit)
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Regardless of the what the benefits of the Fair Tax would be, I doubt that even half of these predictions would come true.


61 posted on 09/23/2007 8:16:36 AM PDT by steadfastconservative
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Boortz ain’t gonna like your assessment of a new Revival b/c of the Fair Tax.


64 posted on 09/23/2007 8:29:14 AM PDT by sauropod (You can’t spell crap without the AP in it.)
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Meanwhile, back in reality...


73 posted on 09/23/2007 1:09:14 PM PDT by Your Nightmare
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