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White House hopefuls court powerful gun lobby (Semi-Barf Alert)
Yahoo News ^ | 22 SEPT 2007 | Karin Zeitvogel

Posted on 09/22/2007 1:09:06 PM PDT by radar101

Members of the powerful US National Rifle Association (NRA) on Friday grilled presidential hopefuls on how far they would go to protect Americans' right to bear arms.

"We believe that God, guns and guts made our country free and we're fighting to keep all three," NRA member Ray Oostdyk, from Virginia, said in between speeches mainly by Republican contenders vying for their party's nomination for the 2008 presidential election, including Rudy Giuliani.

"The NRA speaks for the gun owner, the American patriot who still supports the premises our founding fathers created this country upon," added John Jenkins, who had traveled from the midwestern state of Indiana to be at the convention, called "Celebration of American Values".

The politicians present -- mainly Republican presidential candidates, a lone Democratic hopeful, Bill Richardson, and several high ranking conservatives including former attorney general John Ashcroft and former house speaker Newt Gingrich -- pandered to the crowd of more than 500.

Republican White House hopeful John McCain praised NRA members' sophistication.

"You are the core of the modern United States," he said, massaging the egos of the predominantly male, white audience.

The senator from Arizona stressed his unwavering support for every American's right to bear arms -- even those who want to carry an assault weapon.

"I see no sense in banning firearms based on their physical features," McCain said.

Republican Fred Thompson played hard on the family values angle, pointing out his wife and mother-in-law in the audience. He also stressed that he has long backed the ideals of the NRA.

Giuliani's attempt to woo the votes of the NRA, which claims to have more than four million members, meant glossing over his past opposition to the gun lobby.

"I believe public safety is one of the most fundamental rights that people have. Rights are based on a having a reasonable degree of safety and the right to bear arms is based on a reasonable degree of safety," he said.

Giuliani also stressed the importance of law enforcement in ensuring security, and cited his success in drastically cutting crime in New York during his tenure as mayor.

But he failed to mention that he was instrumental in bringing a lawsuit against gun manufacturers for reckless marketing when he was mayor of New York.

The crowd reminded him of it in a question-and-answer session, to which all the would-be candidates were subjected.

"What I was doing at the time was taking advantage of every law to reduce crime in New York City," Giuliani replied, adding: "I don't agree with (the lawsuit) at this point."

The second amendment in the US constitution's bill of rights pins the right to bear arms on the need to have a "well regulated militia" to ensure national security.

NRA members told AFP that they believe law-abiding, licensed gun-carriers are a deterrent to terrorists.

"If someone with a concealed carry permit (the right to carry a gun) was on those airplanes, they could have stopped that. You should be able to take a gun onto an airplane," Oostdyk said in reference to the Al-Qaeda-hijacked planes that struck the World Trace Center and Pentagon on September 11. 2001.

"If the terrorists had guns too, that's OK, because they wouldn't be able to pull them. If there were three or four other people (with concealed guns) and they didn't know who they were, they wouldn't have known who else was armed."

Jenkins said: "The public doesn't need to fear from everyone having a gun because when everyone has a gun, we live in peace.

"What stops a lot of people (from committing gun crimes) is that they don't know who else has a gun.

"I might not have a gun, but you don't know that so you probably won't try to accost me," he said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunvote; nohtmlintitle; nra

1 posted on 09/22/2007 1:09:09 PM PDT by radar101
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To: radar101

I didn’t know font size was a political issue.


2 posted on 09/22/2007 1:12:08 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

If html is outlawed, only outlaws will have html.


3 posted on 09/22/2007 1:15:02 PM PDT by Disambiguator (What's the temperature, Albert?)
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To: radar101
They barfed the size of the font in the white court of the house?
4 posted on 09/22/2007 1:16:10 PM PDT by elizabetty (Don't Taze Me Bro')
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To: Disambiguator

LMBO!!


5 posted on 09/22/2007 1:16:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: proxy_user

Liberals......FONT YOU!!


6 posted on 09/22/2007 1:17:29 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: radar101

“The second amendment in the US constitution’s bill of rights pins the right to bear arms on the need to have a “well regulated militia” to ensure national security.”

False.

The Right to Bear Arms insures a “well-regulated” Militia, and also bars other such tyrannies that may arise, whether governmental or civil.


7 posted on 09/22/2007 1:17:36 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Give us a militia and we’ll regulate it.


8 posted on 09/22/2007 1:23:38 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Give us a militia and we’ll regulate it.


9 posted on 09/22/2007 1:23:39 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: radar101
I dated a guy who was into fonts.
We broke up.
I wasn't his type.
10 posted on 09/22/2007 1:25:51 PM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: radar101
The powerful "gun lobby" is every true citizen.
11 posted on 09/22/2007 1:47:34 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

“You are the core of the modern United States,” he said, massaging the egos of the predominantly male, white audience.”

Another scum reporter this time trying to make the 2nd Amendment a “Racial/Sexist Issue”

What a PIG.

W


12 posted on 09/22/2007 4:29:29 PM PDT by WLR (Secure our Schools with Armed Staff on Campus. Build the Fence, Nuke Iran)
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To: Caipirabob
The powerful "gun lobby" is every true citizen.

Unfortunately, most firearms owners need to have more than enough in order to protect those who don't own firearms.

Anyone here who is not an NRA member, should become one. And they should buddy up with those who are experienced firearms owners and learn to shoot, take classes, and buy self defense weapons.

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Just my $.02 ($.03 confiscated by the government)

13 posted on 09/22/2007 4:47:15 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: proxy_user

Okay, I don’t get the font jokes. What’s the gag?


14 posted on 09/22/2007 5:39:53 PM PDT by sig226 (New additions to the list of democrat criminals - see my profile)
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To: sig226

Sorry, the moderator has fixed it.

The headline originally had HTML tags in it, which of course don’t render here at FreeRepublic. This enabled wags to take the headline in a different manner than the poster intended it.

He must have begged for mercy.


15 posted on 09/22/2007 5:52:40 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: proxy_user

:)

Thanks.


16 posted on 09/22/2007 5:54:57 PM PDT by sig226 (New additions to the list of democrat criminals - see my profile)
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To: Cobra64

She’s a beaut.


17 posted on 09/22/2007 5:56:47 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: proxy_user
He must have begged for mercy.

Nah, he just bought me a Happy Meal.

18 posted on 09/22/2007 5:57:55 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
She’s a beaut.

Thanks. I JUST got it. Haven't shot it yet. It rained all week-end when I was home, and then back on the road for three weeks. I took the picture just before I left so I wouldn't get lonesome. LOL

But I am staying at a Holiday Inn Express!

19 posted on 09/22/2007 6:52:04 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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