Rudy tells NRA that 9/11 altered his gun views

Newsday.com ^ | September 21, 2007 | CRAIG GORDON

[neverdem]

Rudy Giuliani told the National Rifle Association Friday that his own views on gun control have evolved in part due to the Sept. 11 attacks, which he said highlighted the importance of the Second Amendment right of allowing law-abiding citizens to carry guns.

Facing a group that he once likened to "extremists," Giuliani sought to temper his past strong support for national gun control laws by saying he could no longer support a lawsuit he filed as New York mayor in 2000, which was designed to hold gun-makers liable for gun violence.

Giuliani said "there have been subsequent intervening events -- Sept. 11 -- which casts somewhat of a different light on the Second Amendment and Second Amendment rights. It doesn't change the fundamental rights, but maybe it highlights the necessity for them more."

Giuliani has built his presidential campaign on convincing Republicans that his performance after the Sept. 11 attacks shows he is the strong leader America needs -- but it was the first time he had linked his personal views on gun control to the terror attacks.

The lawsuit -- which ironically was being debated in a New York appeals court Friday as well -- was one of the sharpest points of disagreement between Giuliani and the gun–rights lobby, which he criticized as President Bill Clinton's leading Republican ally in pushing for a national assault weapons ban.

Giuliani rival John McCain also criticized the former mayor's tactics Friday, calling it a "particularly devious effort to use lawsuits to bankrupt our great manufacturers. A number of big-city mayors decided it was more important to blame the manufacturers of a legal product than it was to control crime in their own cities."

Former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson also addressed the meeting of about 400 NRA members, winning by far the...

[codercpc]

I am not saying I "believe" this change of mind, but may I ask what makes his transformation any different than Freds change of mind on immigration, or CFR. Or Mitts abortion transformation?

I will vote for Rudy, but his 2nd Amendment stance is, in my opinion his greatest drawback.

[EGPWS]

Guiliani thought he was comfortable being pro-gun control and a second amendment is for sporting spin.

His comfort level is gone!

Thank you Fred!

[Joe 6-pack]

"Some of us can maintain buoyancy without a "life preserver"!"

If you can maintain bouyancy amidst this sea of BS, you have a density less than or equal to sh!t. That means you're either full of sh!t yourself, or your sh!t's pretty weak. I suppose that if the sun shines out of your butt, you're predominantly filled with helium and hydrogen, but if that's the case you have a lot of this global warming stuff to answer for...

I try to avoid as much sh!t as possible, and where necessary, try to wade in the shallows. I've been up sh!t creek a few times as well, and will always prefer a flotation device or even a canoe without a paddle over attempting to maintain bouyancy. When it comes to getting into deep sh!t, I always get that sinking feeling.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

[“Giuliani rival John McCain also criticized the former mayor’s tactics Friday, calling it a “particularly devious effort to use lawsuits to bankrupt our great manufacturers. A number of big-city mayors decided it was more important to blame the manufacturers of a legal product than it was to control crime in their own cities.”]

Boy, McCain knocked that one out of the park

Yes, he did.

[EGPWS]

Politicians are nothing but whores

I appreciate the quantifying involved with your statement.... ; )

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Since presidential campaigns are now 2+ years in the making, I believe we should make each declared candidate the president of a homeowner's association during that timeframe. I'm guesing we'd see their true colors in that environment a lot more clearly than we see them on the campaign trail.

As President of an HOA, I think your suggestion is cruel and unusual punnishment. ;O)

[roses of sharon]

.....I know....embarrassing isn't’ it?

[dbacks]

Mort Kondrake just lied that the NRA advocates machine guns for everyone. What an idiot!!!!!

[Atlas Sneezed]

I call “bullshit.”

[EGPWS]

If you can maintain bouyancy amidst this sea of BS,...

I can and Joe 6-pack via BS and and conveyance delivered by the posts of Joe 6-pack hardly requires a systematic reaction to want of a life preserver.(at least on MY part anyway)

[Atlas Sneezed]

Mort Kondrake just lied that the NRA advocates machine guns for everyone. What an idiot!!!!!

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Indeed. The NRA has never lifted one damn finger to help regular people be able to go out any buy new machine guns.

[dbacks]

[As President of an HOA,]

And you ADMIT IT? Hmmm.

[glock rocks]

I believe we should make each declared candidate the president of a homeowner's association during that timeframe. I'm guesing we'd see their true colors in that environment a lot more clearly than we see them on the campaign trail.

Amen!

[upchuck]

Ding, ding, ding... We have a winner!

FRed BUMP!

[theDentist]

I have doubts too, but remember, there are a LOT of liberals who change their views after they’ve been mugged, beaten, or shot.

[Sloth]

Rudy Giuliani told the National Rifle Association Friday that his own views on gun control have evolved in part due to the Sept. 11 attacks, which he said highlighted the importance of the Second Amendment right of allowing law-abiding citizens to carry guns.

On airplanes?

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Plus, as the most liberal Republican candidiate (ala McCain) he gets fairly positive MSM coverage because he will be the weakest opposition for the Damocrats (especially after the once fawning MSM turns on him like a pack of Jackals).

[doorgunner69]

Is there anything this cretin would not say without dragging 9/11 references into it?

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Ooops!

Well, since I own three properties in the complex, at least I can keep an eye on my investments. ;)

[Squantos]

LOL.....I wouldn’t let any of the current crop on either side mow my lawn unsupervised let alone give em a little authority.

I don’t mean to sound pessimistic but I can’t see the good in any of the candidates running for office right now short of maybe Hunter...... that is a maybe ~;o)