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American spy satellite downed in Peru as US nuclear attack on Iran thwarted (Says Russia)
whatdoesitmean.com, via Pravda ^ | Sept 20, 2007 | Sorcha Faal

Posted on 09/21/2007 5:15:49 AM PDT by tlb

Russian Military Intelligence Analysts are reporting today that one of the United States most secretive spy satellites, the KH-13, targeting Iran was 'destroyed in its orbit' with its main power generator powered by the radioactive isotope Pu-238 surviving re-entry and crashing in a remote region of the South American Nation of Peru, and where hundreds are reported to be ill from radiation poisoning.

Western media reports are stating that the US spy satellite debris hitting Peru was caused by a meteor, but which, according to these reports, would be 'impossible' as the size of 30-meter crater, if caused by a meteorite, would have hit the ground with about as much energy as 1 kiloton tactical nuclear weapon, and which would have been recorded by the seismic stations around the World.

Most astonishing about these reports, however, are that they state that it was the Americans themselves who destroyed their own spy satellite with the attack upon it being made by the United States Air Forces' 30th Space Wing located at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. This incident further fuels the intrigue involving the United States War Leaders plans to attack Iran in their attempt to engulf the entire Middle East in Total War, but, against which, according to Russian Military Intelligence Analysts, a 'high ranking and significant' faction of the American Military Establishment is opposed to.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bravosierra; espionage; iran; iraq; israel; pravda; russia; russianmilitary; satellites; sorchafaal; vodkaforbreakfast
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To: djf

You make an interesting point.

If China invaded Siberia, who would intervene? All the US offers China at this point is a market for goods. I’m not sure the Russians would use nukes on the Chinese either. They’d have to be able to go back in some time and use the land again.

It may serve China, and even the rest of the world, if they did take Russia out.

It would freak Western Europe out, however.


81 posted on 09/21/2007 8:52:28 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: tlb
This incident further fuels the intrigue involving the United States War Leaders plans to attack Iran in their attempt to engulf the entire Middle East in Total War



"Drats! Foiled again!!"
82 posted on 09/21/2007 8:52:43 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: kempster
Doesn’t the devil wear Pravda?

Excellent!

83 posted on 09/21/2007 8:56:49 AM PDT by null and void (<---- Awake and filled with a terrible resolve...)
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To: ScreamingFist

*ouch*


84 posted on 09/21/2007 9:06:44 AM PDT by null and void (<---- Awake and filled with a terrible resolve...)
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To: dighton

Thatsa some site!

(Imagine your own Chico Marx accent.)


85 posted on 09/21/2007 10:55:13 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Carbonado
I’ll just stick with the Weekly World News and follow the search for Bat boy!

Didn't you hear? The Weekly World News is no more!!

But it's nice to see the staff was able to find work.

86 posted on 09/21/2007 11:01:05 AM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. Yes, cold war disinformation is at it again. Peruvian investigators on the ground said they found no radiation.


87 posted on 09/21/2007 1:29:50 PM PDT by zot
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To: tlb

Did Mary Mapes find a new job???


88 posted on 09/21/2007 2:25:36 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: tlb

Probably true. Didnt all those people get sick in Peru.


89 posted on 09/21/2007 2:28:20 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: tlb

I am not inclined to believe Pravda’s explanation but then I don’t necessarily believe the meteorite explanation either.


90 posted on 09/21/2007 2:33:15 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: cake_crumb
As far as I know, the meteor was confirmed by geologists.

What has been confirmed other than a hole in the ground?

91 posted on 09/21/2007 2:35:49 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: BurbankKarl

Another source says they can’t find anyone who actually got sick. Who knows.


92 posted on 09/21/2007 2:36:43 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: BearCub
A meteor and a satellite with the same mass would have the same momentum and kinetic energy.

Typically not because the satellite would tend to have a much more shallow entry, rather than the meteor which usually goes in at an acute angle, so the satellite is subject to atmospheric friction for a much greater distance.

93 posted on 09/21/2007 2:39:25 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86
much greater distance.

But the distance only has to be enough to reach terminal velocity. Any more disance doesn't slow it further. I dunno, I was just quoting what a university course said.

94 posted on 09/21/2007 2:42:09 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: steve86

I recently read that one of the Russian Early Launch satellites spun uncontrollably out of orbit recently, and they cant cover the entire US anymore.


95 posted on 09/21/2007 2:50:55 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: madinmadtown
Cinema Rex Fire
96 posted on 09/21/2007 3:04:52 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: steve86

It looked like a meteorite crater to me, when I saw the pictures - and a meteorite would probably have vaporized enough stuff (soil, vegetation, etc.) to make people nearby feel not exactly great. There appear to be no lingering illnesses, however, so there was nothing toxic in the thing itself.

A nuclear or other attack would have done a heck of a lot more damage. As for satellites, they fall all the time, usually on unpopulated areas, but they are not necessarily spy satellites or even US satellites. Every country, no matter how tiny, seems to have gotten a satellite up there in recent years.


97 posted on 09/21/2007 3:14:02 PM PDT by livius
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To: BearCub

Yeah, that’s true. A little complicated to compare computationally, with denser air on the way down changing nominal terminal velocity. Also the “skimmer” satellite probably in denser air a greater proportion of the total time than the meteor.


98 posted on 09/21/2007 4:22:42 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Eye of Unk
While plutonium is nothing to sneeze at, there are worse substances.

And, RTGs use Pu-238, not the good stuff.

99 posted on 09/21/2007 4:30:00 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: tlb
I was Mourning, the loss of The Weekly World News.....Thanks to Putin I've now got Pravda!

I wonder when it will appear at the grocery check out line?

100 posted on 09/21/2007 4:31:35 PM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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