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US expert warns of fresh shocks (If Housing Price Continue To Fall)
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/31d8aba4-66b6-11dc-a218-0000779fd2ac.html ^ | 9-19-07 | Eoin Callan

Posted on 09/20/2007 8:49:57 AM PDT by Hydroshock

Edited on 09/20/2007 10:12:24 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Fresh economic shocks on the scale of the current credit squeeze will occur if US house prices continue to fall, one of the country’s leading housing experts warned on Wednesday.

Robert Shiller, a Yale university economist, told a US congressional panel that he feared “the collapse of home prices might turn out to be the most severe since the Great Depression”.

“The decline in house prices stands to create future dislocations, like the credit crisis we have just seen,” he told the Senate’s joint economic committee.

The warning underlines an increasingly widespread view that the turmoil in financial markets and tightening lending conditions are early consequences of a slump in the US housing market that is gathering momentum.

Warning signs There were fresh signs of weakness ahead for the US housing sector as figures showed applications for building permits fell to a 12-year-low.

Housing starts also dropped to the lowest level since June 1995, declining 2.6 per cent to an annual rate of 1.331m units.

The decline in construction activity appeared to be spreading to the north-east, where starts were 38 per cent lower.

Patrick Newport, an economist at Global Insight, said: “The eye of the storm is just ahead.”

But investors were cheered by the prospect of future interest rate cuts, as consumer price figures suggested a moderate inflation trend.

The government’s consumer price index fell last month by 0.1 per cent as prices at the pump dropped by nearly 5 per cent.

Core prices increased by 0.2 per cent. But the annual underlying inflation rate edged down to a 17-month low of 2.1 per cent from 2.2 per cent.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: gmgoodwrench; housingbubble; meineke; midas; searsautocenter; two; vulturegram
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To: Hydroshock

IF, MIGHT?

Hahah this guys an optimist.

There is no doubt prices will continue to fall, and the credit bubble will continue to deflate with massive consequences around the world.

The only question left is how fast and how long the deflation is going to take.. if its slow enough, we’ll just have a flat economy/recession for a good longwhile.. if its rapid, we’ll have a global depression.


41 posted on 09/20/2007 1:00:23 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: TexanToTheCore
Our economy is extremely strong and will continue so for a long time.

Ah, so THAT is why the FED just slashed the prime rate by 50 basis points! The economic outlook is so strong, they just wanted to make it even stronger.

42 posted on 09/20/2007 1:02:09 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: HamiltonJay

Yep, I sadly agree.


43 posted on 09/20/2007 1:07:27 PM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

I’m having 70s flashbacks. NOT GOOD. Somebody get me a Vallium, slap me, electroshock therapy. Anything!

I’ve tried to purge the 70s from my mind and now the Fed slashing rates, talks of recession, stagflation and the crashing of the dollar are all sending me back into 70s flashbacks. Next thing you know, I’ll be collecting Pintos and Gremlins.

Aaaaaaarrrghhhhblleppffffffftttt!

OK, I’m better now. NO MORE TALK OF LEISURE SUITS, Donna Summer, or maxi dresses or...


44 posted on 09/20/2007 1:10:15 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Actually, with everyone working it should be cranking over at a slightly higher growth rate as has been noted by a number of people.

This rate decline is not a sign that we are going to tank. It is merely trying to tune the economy upward. If the housing sector begins to do well again, you will definitely see an increase in the growth rate.


45 posted on 09/20/2007 1:21:48 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: mek1959

is there a place or a thread for people to talk about “safe” investing and preparation in case, just in case, we do have a recession/depression/weather front or whatever?


46 posted on 09/20/2007 1:27:03 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“NO MORE TALK OF LEISURE SUITS”

Mini-skirts, however, remain in play.


47 posted on 09/20/2007 1:30:10 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
you'll have to pull out your "win" button......

I'll bet a lot of freepers don't remember that ( either they were too young or are now too senile...)

48 posted on 09/20/2007 1:30:23 PM PDT by cherry
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To: dangus

“I wish that I could figure out a way to make money off of you naysayers!”

Sell them gold. Get them prepared for “The Coming Recession”.


49 posted on 09/20/2007 1:32:16 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: Hydroshock
It is prudent to be cautious at all times.......Not just when every pundit in the MSM/DBM is screaming it.

Learn how to short.

Or buy QID, SDD..or any number of other short vehicles.

50 posted on 09/20/2007 1:46:31 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots..............)
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To: Perdogg
While I'm no gloom and doomer.....

Gold has been a nice place $$$ to be for a couple years.

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$GOLD&p=W&yr=3&mn=0&dy=0&id=p67546646347

51 posted on 09/20/2007 1:51:42 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots..............)
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To: Hydroshock

OMG, is that my rental property?


52 posted on 09/20/2007 1:53:07 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: Hydroshock

My local paper had a big story the other day bemoaning that house prices were out of reach for many in the area. Today they had an article bemoaning the falling house prices.


53 posted on 09/20/2007 3:11:26 PM PDT by feedback doctor (green is the new red. . .)
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To: italianquaker

I wouldn’t call Shiller a hack. He predicted earlier price drops in his book Irrational Exhuberance - a term used later by Greenspan. Of course he could be wrong this time but I wouldn’t put him in the category of hack.


54 posted on 09/20/2007 3:20:45 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Hydroshock
Like you said, the rate cut isn’t working that well. Hang on to your hats boys, the roller coaster is heading down hill.
55 posted on 09/20/2007 3:37:07 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Why do we fight inflation everywhere else, but want inflation in the cost of housing?

Since we don’t save, it makes us “feel” wealthy.


56 posted on 09/20/2007 3:46:40 PM PDT by hubbubhubbub
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To: ladyjane

ok


57 posted on 09/20/2007 4:18:08 PM PDT by italianquaker (Is there anything Ron Paul doesn't blame the USA for?)
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To: feedback doctor

My local paper had a big story the other day bemoaning that house prices were out of reach for many in the area. Today they had an article bemoaning the falling house prices


You local paper is probably neither being hypercritical nor exercising a political agenda. They simply don’t know how to deal with instability.


58 posted on 09/20/2007 4:21:29 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: NeoCaveman
I'm hoping for an epic shot and a beer market.

Hopefully accompanied by an epic pretzel market.

59 posted on 09/20/2007 4:24:57 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Hydroshock

Looks like the house of another government school educated six grade drop out who wanted to F around and not do any school work.


60 posted on 09/20/2007 4:26:19 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (America has become a nanny nation and a reality nation. Nothing is real anymore.)
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