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Dobson Says He Won't Support Thompson
AP ^ | 9/19/07 | Erik Gorski

Posted on 09/19/2007 7:14:10 PM PDT by pissant

DENVER (AP) — James Dobson, one of the nation's most politically influential evangelical Christians, made it clear in a message to friends this week he will not support Republican presidential hopeful Fred Thompson.

In a private e-mail obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press, Dobson accuses the former Tennessee senator and actor of being weak on the campaign trail and wrong on issues dear to social conservatives.

"Isn't Thompson the candidate who is opposed to a Constitutional amendment to protect marriage, believes there should be 50 different definitions of marriage in the U.S., favors McCain-Feingold, won't talk at all about what he believes, and can't speak his way out of a paper bag on the campaign trail?" Dobson wrote.

"He has no passion, no zeal, and no apparent 'want to.' And yet he is apparently the Great Hope that burns in the breasts of many conservative Christians? Well, not for me, my brothers. Not for me!"

The founder and chairman of Colorado Springs-based Focus on the Family, Dobson draws a radio audience in the millions, many of whom who first came to trust the child psychologist for his conservative Christian advice on child-rearing.

Gary Schneeberger, a Focus on the Family spokesman, confirmed that Dobson wrote the e-mail. Schneeberger declined to comment further, saying it would be inappropriate because Dobson's comments about presidential candidates are made as an individual and not as a representative of Focus on the Family, a nonprofit organization restricted from partisan politics.

Dobson's strong words about Thompson underscore the frustration and lack of unity among Christian conservatives about the GOP field. Some Christian right leaders have pinned their hopes on Thompson, describing him as a Southern-fried Ronald Reagan. But others have voiced doubts in recent weeks about some of the same issues Dobson highlighted: his position on gay marriage and support for the 2002 McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform legislation.

Dobson and other Christian conservatives support an amendment to the U.S. Constitution that would bar gay marriage nationally. Thompson has said he would support a constitutional amendment that would prohibit states from imposing their gay marriage laws on other states, which falls well short of that.

Karen Hanretty, a spokeswoman for the Thompson campaign, said Wednesday in response to the Dobson e-mail: "Fred Thompson has a 100 percent pro-life voting record. He believes strongly in returning authority to the levels of government closest to families and communities, protecting states from intrusion by the federal government and activist judges.

"We're confident as voters get to know Fred, they'll appreciate his conservative principles, and he is the one conservative in this race who can win the nomination and can go on to defeat the Democratic nominee."

In his e-mail addressed "Dear friends," Dobson includes the text of a recent news story highlighting Thompson's statement that while he was baptized in the Church of Christ, he does not attend church regularly and won't speak about his faith on the stump.

U.S. News and World Report quoted Dobson earlier this year as questioning Thompson's commitment to the Christian faith — comments Dobson contended were not put in proper context. Dobson in this week's e-mail writes that suppositions "about the former senator's never having professed to be a Christian are turning out to be accurate in substance."

Earlier this year, Dobson said he wouldn't back John McCain because of the Arizona senator's opposition to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.

Later, Dobson wrote on a conservative news Web site that he wouldn't support former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani should he win the Republican nomination. Dobson called Giuliani an "unapologetic supporter of abortion on demand" and criticized him for signing a bill in 1997 creating domestic-partnership benefits in New York City.

Last week, Dobson announced on his radio show that the IRS had cleared him of accusations that he had endangered his organization's nonprofit status by endorsing Republican candidates in 2004. The IRS said Dobson, who endorsed President Bush's re-election bid, was acting as an individual and not on behalf of the nonprofit group.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
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To: richmwill
Does anyone actually base their vote on who James Dobson likes?

That's not how these things work. But it would be pretty big news if Bush I, or Gingrich, or Nancy Reagan, or whoever came out against one of the candidates running for the nomination. Same here. And those people that liked Gingrich or Nancy Reagan, or whoever spoke out, would consider their view. I think Dobson has more people listening to him than any of the people I just named, so it's news.

741 posted on 09/20/2007 12:57:07 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: mek1959

Where’s the visionary leader that will cut the public’s near 9 TRILLION dollar debt? We’re is the visionary that will reduce our 3TRILLION dollar budget and bring spending back to pre-1930’s percent of GDP? Where’s the clarion trumpets sounding about abortion? Which candidate has said they’ll stop the government from reaching into my back pocket, taking out my wallet and removing my and my family’s hard earned money. Where’s the candidate that will take on the teachers unions and call public education what it really is, generally useless.

If these are your major concerns the only candidate that would be 100% on these issues is Ron Paul.


742 posted on 09/20/2007 12:57:25 PM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Mamzelle; Politicalmom

As politicalmom says,

Fred is “lazy like a fox.” “;^)


743 posted on 09/20/2007 12:57:48 PM PDT by b9 ("Fred... doesn't suffer fools and he has the guts and the microphone to say what I think" ~ Samwise)
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To: trumandogz

‘Well there goes 153 votes for Fred.’]

Pretty much the same thought here. Anyone that requires somebody to tell them who to vote for, or who not to vote for, in any capacity, shouldn’t be voting in the first place.

I’d say Dobson’s ego is getting away from him.


744 posted on 09/20/2007 12:59:13 PM PDT by Badeye (You can't ping the banned, dingus (Grin))
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To: Paige
I still blame him and the stay at home Conservatives for that motley crew we have in Congress now.

Dobson said to get out and vote, that the heads of the committees in Congress under the Dems were too terrible to think about . . .

745 posted on 09/20/2007 1:00:52 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: pissant

Things are going to be fluid I think for another couple of months. The ‘values voters’ in Farah’s debate picked Huckabee by a wide margin. Something ain’t right.

I think the “values voters” are generally nanny staters from the opposite side of the spectrum than the socialist/commi/tree hugger nanny statists. In my view both are equally dangerous to the constitution and individual liberty.


746 posted on 09/20/2007 1:01:51 PM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Badeye
LOL! Dobson's ego is too big to lose. I was acquainted with him some years ago. Cold as a fish.

I wonder if this announcement is out of frustration with the way the GOP is snubbing the conservative base.

747 posted on 09/20/2007 1:03:27 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Wicket

Appears to me the Dobson doesn’t like Federalism. Seems he wants his self-proclaimed christian rights instead of State’s Rights.


748 posted on 09/20/2007 1:05:49 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Mamzelle

I think its more about he wanted a headline before the end of the week than anything else. This guarantees an invite to Stuffinenvelopes show, and Timmy’s at least.

I do detest religious ‘leaders’ that want to play political king maker. Didn’t like it in the 1980’s, don’t like it now. Eventually they always seem to do more harm than good, giving the leftwingers a ton of ‘ammo’ one way or the other.

Just tend to your flock Mr Dobson.


749 posted on 09/20/2007 1:06:03 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: finnman69

James Dobson is a legend in his own mind.
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7 million American radio listeners. 500 newspapers carry his column. 115 countries reached, with language translation, by his radio program. Rallies held in stadiums. His ministry has its own zip code.

http://slate.com/id/2109621/


750 posted on 09/20/2007 1:07:45 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Paperdoll

But your Biblical knowledge is not! But your Biblical knowledge is not!

Apparently neither is yours. GOD also gave man free will to love HIM or reject him and the ability to live according to The Spirit of the Law or the letter of the Law. Living according to the letter of the Law will result in one glorifying GOD in HIS rath or realizing one’s inadequacy and crying out for help. Living according to the Spirit of the Law will lead to GOD’s grace being glorified.

No constitutional amendment will stop homosexuality, promiscuity, infidelity, drug use, alcohol abuse, or any other sin. All this accomplishes is restricting freedom, empowering government and a lack of community involvment.


751 posted on 09/20/2007 1:10:13 PM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

“Appears to me the Dobson doesn’t like Federalism. Seems he wants his self-proclaimed christian rights instead of State’s Rights.”

As I’ve asked you on other threads, Tradition — so far, without an answer — do you think slavery should be left up to the 50 states?

Either way, explain your answer in the context of “federalism.”

The right to be born in the first place and the preservation of the lowest, most local form of self-government on which Western civilization rests — i.e., marriage — should be universally guaranteed, just as freedom from slavery is via an amendment to the Constitution.

And if the Con is amended via the very procedure which the founders placed in the Co in the first place, how does amendming it violate founding principles?


752 posted on 09/20/2007 1:14:21 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: Mamzelle
I wonder if this announcement is out of frustration with the way the GOP is snubbing the conservative base.

IMO, it's more personal than that.

Dobson and Fred are only 6 years apart and Fred is demonstrating accomplishments few older gents can even fathom.

753 posted on 09/20/2007 1:14:42 PM PDT by b9 ("Fred... doesn't suffer fools and he has the guts and the microphone to say what I think" ~ Samwise)
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To: Tall_Texan

That pretty much leaves Hunter and Huckabee and both of those longshots have a lot of ground to make up if they are going to get the nomination. Don’t label me a prophet but I’m guessing Dobson is headed for a road-to-Damascus conversion on one of these guys in about eight months.
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Yah, if he really wanted to shake up the race he’d endorse Hunter or Huckabee now. This sort of sniping at those he doesn’t like isn’t going to do much.


754 posted on 09/20/2007 1:17:16 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: AFA-Michigan
do you think slavery should be left up to the 50 states?

If you missed the announcement...Slavery was eliminated by means of Constitutional Amendment. It is no longer under the domain of State's Rights. There is no Constitutional Amendment eliminating abortion. Until such time it is a matter of State's Rights.

How I feel about either issue is a moot point. The LAW is the LAW.

755 posted on 09/20/2007 1:20:06 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: b9

Dobson is in the tank for Gingrich, so he’s throwing a fit.

I like Dobson OK, but he’s of the nanny-state-from-the-right version of Christianity. He’d ban beer in a second and probably thinks it’s OK to take away Roman Catholic church tax deductions because they answer to a foreign power. Etc.


756 posted on 09/20/2007 1:22:31 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

“If you missed the announcement...Slavery was eliminated by means of Constitutional Amendment. It is no longer under the domain of State’s Rights. There is no Constitutional Amendment eliminating abortion. Until such time it is a matter of State’s Rights.”

Talk about a shallow and circular argument, Tradition. I expected something a bit more...to put it kindly, substantive.

If outlawing slavery via Constitutional amendment rendered it valid in your mind and no longer a violation of “federalism,” then explain why you’d oppose similarly amending the Constitution via the Constitutionally provided process to protect life and marriage?

Would you have opposed the Constitutional amendment to ban slavery BEFORE it was approved by the states, for violating “federalism”? Then suddenly upon its approval by the states, it no longer violated “federalism”?

Please, since you’re obviously an ardent defender of “federalism,” provide us a logical defense of the concept.


757 posted on 09/20/2007 1:25:44 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: Soul Seeker

Bump

Good post. I think Dobson’s “job” is to hold politicians feet to the fire on the issues and he unleashes deluges of faxes and calls on “obscure” bills that effect families, churches, etc., that others barely notice. I would like to know what he really thinks about Thompson and why though, since he’s popped up in the news attacking him a couple times now.


758 posted on 09/20/2007 1:26:23 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I have no bone to pick with Dobson, other than his prejudice against Fred.

Fred is redefining possibilities.
He’s proving his detractors wrong on everything they fling at him.


759 posted on 09/20/2007 1:28:21 PM PDT by b9 ("Fred... doesn't suffer fools and he has the guts and the microphone to say what I think" ~ Samwise)
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To: AFA-Michigan

In The Federalist No. 45, James Madison gave his vision of how federalism would work:

The powers delegated by the Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in state governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce. … The powers reserved to the several states will extend to all objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the states.


760 posted on 09/20/2007 1:29:14 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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