Posted on 09/19/2007 7:14:10 PM PDT by pissant
Abortion is the one that gets everyone twisted up. Some want a Federal level amendment to prohibit abortion. But that is only one moral view. Some think the states, and ultimately, the people themselves should decide on abortion, not have it legislated from the judicial branch.
At the state level it can be corrected much more easily than at the Federal level. It's just the way things work. It's easier to modify a law at the state level than it is at the Federal all-encompassing level.
Now, we, as conservatives, oppse abortion, period. But we are not the voice of ALL the people and until that voice is heard at the ballot box, there can be no determination. OUR job is to coerce, cajole, and otherwise convince the opposition that the right way is to protect life.
But we can't force it on anyone.
There you go again saying thing you do not wish to understand and telling the story in the most uncomplimentary way you can produce!
I said nothing of the sort; in fact I said just the opposite. Jesus was not in any sense "created" - he is eternal; he has always existed. He "became flesh", not (primarily) to "understand the temptation from Satan" (what an odd phrase), but to give his life for ours; to break the power of sin and death, and to usher in a New Covenant between God and man.
GOD recreated himself from himself to grow up in Satans world and show how to handle him. That’s it. Jesus prayed to the Father did he not!
It may be a subtle correction, but the truth is that God did not “create” himself again. He was “begotten.” He remained one Being, present in three Persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). His reason for becoming Man wasn’t to understand temptation, but to take our punishment on the cross.
I don’t understand all this very fully, but this is orthodox.
Your insult and comment are not appreciated.
Then refute my statements, rather than merely appeal to your authority.
i know what you mean on bell, i’d hit it too.
Dobson probably wants Jesus to come back and run.
“my guess is someone made a little donation to this guys ministry in that last coupla weeks. someone not from the fred camp.”
I believe it when it is said that he is speaking as a private individual and not for Focus on the Family organization. He does have the progative to do that, and the IRS evidently has believed him in a previous question along this line.
Then REFUTE what I pose, rather than merely dismiss me. Are Satan and Jesus brothers? Yes or no? I am not ashamed of sound doctrine. You are clearly ashamed of such ridiculous and indefensible doctrines as this.
That is why you are a former pastor
You have my respect sir. I am halfway done with my life and my earlier comments about the coronation process going through the media elites and the party apparatus reflect my frustration with the theater our government has become.
I really like Duncan and respect him very much. I also really like Fred Thompson as a former Tennessean who followed him closely as my senator.
I would be happy with either of them. By the time I vote in the primary it will be decided anyways. :(
Jesus did not know it was to take our sin until he understood the temptation.
I actually like Dobson quite a bit but I’m not with him on this one.
Not sure what he has against Fred, I’ve noticed he has been against him from the getgo.
I generally share similar views with my Christian conservative homeos....but not always
Yikes! Where are you getting this doctrine?
Jesus did not owe Satan anything. Jesus was not punished by Satan. Jesus was punished by the Father. He experienced not the wrath of Satan, but the wrath of the Father ... on my behalf.
Yes, Jesus prayed to the Father. From the beginning the Trinity enjoyed fellowship, a type of community that I don’t understand. Did God not say “Let US make Man in OUR image”?
Good grief. *I will tell them not to send their magazine to my house any more, after reading it for 20 years or more.*
Is that better?
I agree with you completely. I don’t agree with everything Dobson says. But he is a man of integrity (though a sinner, like me). And to assume that he’s corrupt betrays a subtle animosity toward high-profile Christians.
No, they know they already have one but he's not running for office...he stays above that sort of thing.
Speak for yourself. Fred NEVER said he didn’t want the support of the Christian Right, but he isn’t going to pander either.
And as a member of the “Christian Right” Fred still has my support.
I, too, support Mitt Romney.
He is, by far, the most solid, most competent, most energized and focused candidate we have.
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