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Children force another child to perform sex act on school bus
wzzm 13 news website ^ | 9-18-07 | Lansing State Journal

Posted on 09/19/2007 11:18:56 AM PDT by mombyprofession

2 Howell boys accused of forcing classmate to have sex on bus

Lansing State Journal

Created: 9/18/2007 8:41:02 PM Updated: 9/18/2007 8:41:30 PM

Special to the State Journal

HOWELL - Two Howell elementary school boys - ages 9 and 11 - have been charged as juveniles with criminal sexual conduct for allegedly making a 7-year-old boy perform oral sex while on a school bus in May.

The father of the 11-year-old boy, however, said his son merely witnessed the attacks and was himself a victim of a similar attempted sexual assault by the 9-year-old. He questioned the safety of students on Howell buses

"We take it for granted our children are safe," the 38-year-old father said. "We're worried about predators coming up to the bus stop, not being on the bus. How can you think our children are safe? The school should be accountable for what happens on the bus."

Although the events reportedly happened at the end of the school year, Superintendent Chuck Breiner said he just learned of the alleged sexual assaults on Monday when the 11-year-old boy's father called him to ask why his son was questioned by the school principal and a police officer without his knowledge.

Police reports indicate that the 7-year-old reported that on several occasions he was forced to perform a sex act on the 9-year-old boy. The incidents are alleged to have taken place toward the end of the after-school bus route when there were few students on the bus.

School buses have cameras but a video tape is inconclusive, said Breiner.

Juvenile court records indicate the 9- and 11-year-old boys are each charged with first- and second-degree criminal sexual conduct.

If convicted as charged, both boys also would have to register as sex offenders for life.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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To: SoftballMominVA

To use an old term, acting adult would be squaresville. In truth, these sitcoms can be very destructive. Young viewers get a completely skewed message. Reasoned roles are just destroyed in the process.

There is one show on today that shows men in their natural setting. But in the interest of humor, even that is exagerated to the point of absurdity.

Two and a Half Men is the only show that doesn’t show men neutered to the point of unicdom, at least in the sit-com setting.

The sad thing is that there is a young kid in the show. While this leads to some incredibly funny material, the subject matter is way over his head. There are times when it borders on abuse IMO.

The men are portrayed as if they are mentally 18 to 22, but their bodies and life situations are late thirties to early forties. Don’t get me wrong, some of the situations are truly accurate, but others do stretch credibility a bit.

While it sounds like I’m panning this show, I think it is worth watching if you are an adult. I think some of it would offend people and other parts would have them rolling on the floor. As adults, I think people can sort it all out and enjoy the show.

Kids? No...


81 posted on 09/19/2007 2:04:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Sorry Hillderella, but the Hsu fits... and king Lerach would like a call. < wicked witch laughter >)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; BlackElk; blu; Capagrl; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles.

This sort of thing happened in a neighboring community a few years ago. It never made it past the local news, though.

82 posted on 09/19/2007 2:18:25 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mombyprofession
The father of the 11-year-old boy, however, said his son merely witnessed the attacks and was himself a victim of a similar attempted sexual assault by the 9-year-old. He questioned the safety of students on Howell buses

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

And,,,I bet this a ¨good¨ school in a ¨good¨ neighborhood.

If you imprison children 9 months of a years, 8 hours a day, is it any wonder that they act like prisoners? And any child who rebels and refuses to cooperate with the police state imprisonment ( mis-named “Education” ) is hauled before judges and sometimes sent to REAL prison.

Honestly,,,,with the daily reports of abuse by teachers and school staff, and the poorly reported incidence of child on child abuse, why would any rational parent institutionalize their child for his education?

Oh...yeah! I forgot this never happens in a government defender´s blue ribbon school. Their children have never witnessed or personally experienced the physical, emotional, and sexual children inflict on each other.

83 posted on 09/19/2007 2:56:37 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime; metmom; JulieRNR21; little jeremiah; Tired of Taxes

“If you imprison children 9 months of a years, 8 hours a day, is it any wonder that they act like prisoners?”

That is an excellent question. And I think that we already know the answer.


84 posted on 09/19/2007 3:03:18 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: SoftballMominVA; DoughtyOne
I think that we pay too little attention to the messages TV, movies, and songs are putting out there for our kids

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Yep! This is definitely the fault of the “ Media”. ( sarc)

It couldn´t possibly be due to the horrendous lack of supervision on government school buses. Gee! Putting an adult on the back of the bus would mean less money for the government school teacher mafia.

Maybe if another adult were riding the buses we wouldn´t see 17,000 children a year sent to hospital emergency rooms for school bus injuries.

85 posted on 09/19/2007 3:03:32 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

Is that the incident rate? Wow.

I can remember seeing kids skoot into the bar on the back of the seat in front of them.

Back in my day, there might have been a bully, but generally the kids behaved if the driver told them to.

These days kids don’t even mind when mom and dad tell them to.

Now that moms and dads spare the rod, the liitle munchkins are free to kill each other. Ahhhhh... much better.


86 posted on 09/19/2007 3:09:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Sorry Hillderella, but the Hsu fits... and king Lerach would like a call. < wicked witch laughter >)
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To: cinives

Yes I did, I pulled my child out of public school.


87 posted on 09/19/2007 3:40:28 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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88 posted on 09/19/2007 4:16:23 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Aquinasfan
At our town pond this summer, a nine-year-old boy, who was very interested in my daughter, told her, "I have a six-pack! See!" Yeah, so much for innocence.

A six pack isn't an inherently sexual thing. In my day he probably would have shown her his biceps.

89 posted on 09/19/2007 4:26:33 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: CT-Freeper; All

And they learned it all............at school!!


90 posted on 09/19/2007 4:44:11 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: CodeToad
“So, you are saying a person doesn’t know if they are hetero or homo until puberty?? Tell, us, Dr. Spock, all about that definition.”

How could they possibly know until puberty, if they ever “know” at all. It’s a b-e-h-a-v-i-o-r!! Kids used to be, and even now should be allowed to be, asexual till puberty. Way too much sex pushed on kids from every avenue, especially those that used to be the champions of protecting their innocence!

91 posted on 09/19/2007 4:49:52 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
You are absolutely right!! The ads are just getting worse and worse. The latest, which they run during and right after the diner hour so you can’t even watch the local weather, glorifies herpes for the love of God! And they always show loving and very attractive couples. Very misleading messages to kids.

Those ads are a big reason tv is seldom on in our house.

92 posted on 09/19/2007 4:59:10 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: navyblue
I take it that there was an adult bus driver. So what was he/she doing while this was going on?

Let's be fair. The driver was more than likely driving at the time and even the video tape is inconclusive. This behavior wasn't out in the open and easy to catch.

93 posted on 09/19/2007 5:00:41 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: LongTimeMILurker

“I certainly think that kids have access to watching South Park, and some episodes have been very explicit about decribing homosexual acts. I don’t think we can hold them blameless, even if the Rainforest episode was right on target.”

In a case like that I would blame the parents. No child that age should be watching South Park.


94 posted on 09/19/2007 5:11:49 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: maine-iac7
Are you suggesting that any public school in America is teaching 9 and 11 year olds how to give and order fellatio on another student? If so, I'd like some information to back up the statement that "kids try out what they are taught to do = ...public schools" I'm thinking that the child learned this from home as opposed to any public school in this or any other nation.

Or is this just mindless hyperbole that you really didn't think through?

95 posted on 09/19/2007 6:23:45 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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To: gidget7
My neighbors have a 10, 6, and 4 year old. They all watch South Park, in fact, they each received different seasons as Christmas gifts last year. The mother bragged that they were SO good at sharing and she was SO proud of them.

For anyone that may be interested in how this affects them at school and what the teachers think of it? Well, I think the teacher thinks it's pretty okay as they are home schooled.

96 posted on 09/19/2007 6:30:15 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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To: EBH
The Baptist school kids weren't much better when I was growing up. I remember begging my mother to please, please, please write a check for a week's worth of lunch money so that it couldn't be taken from me day by day. Checks are a bit harder for 10/12 year olds to negotiate. She didn't want to write a check for so little. I was ashamed to tell her what was going on because I had asked to go to that school.

This is not the forum for it, but getting roughed up for my 75 cents every day was nothing compared to what the teachers did.

97 posted on 09/19/2007 6:37:44 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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To: AppyPappy

Everybody homeschools, right? or you are not in the US?


98 posted on 09/19/2007 6:43:12 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: AppyPappy

Everybody homeschools, right? or you are not in the US?


99 posted on 09/19/2007 6:43:37 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: wintertime
Their children have never witnessed or personally experienced the physical, emotional, and sexual children inflict on each other.

Guess what? This kind of stuff also happens in church schools and has been for years..........I should know because it was happening in my Catholic elementary school when I attended, and I graduated 8th grade in 1974.

Get off your "government" school high horse -- it can happen anywhere........and it is nothing new.

100 posted on 09/19/2007 6:57:47 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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