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1 posted on 09/17/2007 4:28:59 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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the world could live with a nuclear-armed regime in Tehran...

That depends on the definition of the word "regime".

38 posted on 09/17/2007 5:34:50 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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Maybe, perhaps we are already living with a nuclear armed Iran.

Do we really know?


39 posted on 09/17/2007 5:37:48 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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Iran would consider themselves invincible with nukes. They would do whatever they please to whomever they please in the Middle East. Radical islamic hegemony would know no bounds.
40 posted on 09/17/2007 5:41:16 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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I have no problem with Iran being nuclear as long as it glowed enough and was glazed over as one big ceramic or glassy expanse.


46 posted on 09/17/2007 6:05:41 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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If this guy was a General, we are in huge !@#$ing trouble!
47 posted on 09/17/2007 6:09:06 PM PDT by NickFlooding (Canceling out liberal votes since 1972.)
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"... I doubt that the Iranians intend to attack us with a nuclear weapon."

If they attack us they will be smart enough to not leave a calling card. Just like with Pan Am 103.

48 posted on 09/17/2007 6:28:46 PM PDT by wideminded
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Brain dead idiocy. Once they have enough to deter, they will hand some on to their terrorist proxies. Bank on it. You will not deter those, and Iran is not scared that you will attack them and invite scores of the things going off, to deal with it. Their proof? You haven't touched them yet for anything they've done over the past 28 years.
49 posted on 09/17/2007 6:37:15 PM PDT by JasonC
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I said it then, I’ll say it again...

This fool General went “native” on us....
His position on ROE, got a lot of good men killed.

His PERSONAL agreement to avoid attacking the enemy while congregated for funerals or in cemeteries was UNCONSCIONABLE and resulted in the lost opportunity to kill a lot of bastard leaders - who lived to kill more good men..

This silly bastard should retire quietly, cash his pension checks and STFU.

How would the silly bastard explain away the risk of having Iran give nuclear weapons to “terrorists” to use against us — with unprovable connection to Iran?
Can’t happen? Hell, Iran is ALREADY sending weapons to Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and probably Afghanistan to kill Americans or Jews....


50 posted on 09/17/2007 6:41:59 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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"Iran is not a suicide nation," he said. "I mean, they may have some people in charge that don't appear to be rational, but I doubt that the Iranians intend to attack us with a nuclear weapon."

It is the "some people in charge that don't appear to be rational" who are the ones IN CHARGE in Iran, i.e. THEY, THE NON-RATIONAL, will decide whether or not to launch nukes.

The General seems to be unaware that Iran is not the US - there are no checks and balances, there are no institutional safeguards to toss "some people in charge that don't appear to be rational" out of power and into jail or the nuthouse. The Iranian people, as kindly disposed to the US and the West as they may be on balance, count for little or nothing in the short term. Power is in the hands of the Ayatollahs, of the same people who daily preach for the destruction of "The Great Satan." That's not some dude in a red suit with horns, a pointy tail and hooves who sits on your shoulder trying to get you to do the wrong thing all the time, that's US, General Putz.

The Iranians are aware, he said, that the United States has a far superior military capability.

Yes, but there's that "some people in charge that don't appear to be rational" thing popping up again. Hitler knew that the resources of the US, UK and Soviet Union were far superior to those of Germany and its allies, but the non-rational SOB decided to declare war on all three at the same time. He also diverted enormous resources to a completely non-productive (and, in fact, counter-productive) enterprise, the murder of some 11 million non-combatants all over the continent of Europe. That's what "some people in charge that don't appear to be rational" will do sometimes.

Besides, the "some people in charge that don't appear to be rational" think that Allah or the 12th Imam, or Ishkabibble or the Man in the Moon will intervene on Iran's behalf in the midst of a global conflagration. They WANT it to happen.

As Nuconvert said, "Thank you for your service, General. I’m glad you’re retired." I agree. Go write a book, go help some contractor get some juicy contracts that it has no right to obtain in return for paying you an obscene amount of money, enjoy your family...in short, go away.

51 posted on 09/17/2007 6:45:44 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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We need to stop the proliferation of WMD in its tracks NOW.

Given the spread of technology and rapid communication like with the internet, we need to have a world of responsible governments run by responsible people ONLY.

In today’s world, it is mainly states (with lots of resources) which are capable of creating WMD.

But if we let the proliferation continue and do not contain the irresponsible people running irresponsible governments, then it is only a matter of time before the age of WMD terrorism begins and good luck will be all that we have to rely on.

Iran needs to hear a very strong message. So far the strong “diplomatic” messages have only emboldened them.


52 posted on 09/17/2007 6:52:04 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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"I believe that we have the power to deter Iran, should it become nuclear," he said, referring to the theory that Iran would not risk a catastrophic retaliatory strike by using a nuclear weapon against the United States.

And the threat of retaliation from Israels nuclear weapons sure has bought the Israelis a whole lot of peace and security.

55 posted on 09/17/2007 7:45:05 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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"Iran is not a suicide nation," he said. "I mean, they may have some people in charge that don't appear to be rational, but I doubt that the Iranians intend to attack us with a nuclear weapon." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Vig is in, the USA will destroy Iran's nuclear capability. All last week, after Israel destroyed a nuclear cache in Syria, the Ilamofascists have been doing shark rolls and gnashing their teeth. Iran is not a suicide nation? They have been sponsoring and advocating suicide attacks for years. We can list dozens of them.

And whats this about not using a nuclear weapon, after the Iranians exchanged gas attacks with Sadaam Hussein, killing thousands of Iraqis and thousands of their own soldiers when the wind changed to blow the gas into Iranian lines?

You bet the Iranians would use the bomb. Chances are they already have it.

As Sherlock Holmes once said," Watson, the game is afoot!"

Do not be surprised when you wake up one of these mornings to find dozens of nuclear sites in Iran nothing more than glowing holes in the ground.

Long overdue!

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56 posted on 09/17/2007 8:03:47 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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I’m stunned.
Even if that is the case,
Why does he think the Iranian islamo kooks would keep those nukes safe from other islamo kooks that would happily use them on Israel?


57 posted on 09/17/2007 8:08:20 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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So can you also live with a big hole where Israel used to be? I don’t think so.
59 posted on 09/17/2007 10:31:35 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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Yeah, and there were plenty of Germans who weren't Nazis, too... but we still had to fight them, and kill many non-military citizens.

Hopefully, we'll still have the will to do it again, when necessary.

63 posted on 09/19/2007 9:33:31 AM PDT by Teacher317
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Abizaid: World could abide nuclear Iran

Would he also feel comfortable being in the same room with a monkey while it was playing with a hand grenade?

64 posted on 09/19/2007 9:38:20 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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