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McCain says he's been Baptist for years
Associated Press ^ | September 17, 2007 | BRUCE SMITH

Posted on 09/17/2007 6:33:06 AM PDT by presidio9

Republican presidential candidate John McCain, who has long identified himself as an Episcopalian, said this weekend that he is a Baptist and has been for years.

Campaigning in this conservative, predominantly Baptist state, McCain called himself a Baptist when speaking to reporters Sunday and noted that he and his family have been members of the North Phoenix Baptist Church in his home state of Arizona for more than 15 years.

"It's well known because I'm an active member of the church," the Arizona senator said.

While McCain has long talked about his family's and his own attendance at the Arizona church, he appears to have consistently referred to himself as Episcopalian in media reports.

In a June interview with McClatchy Newspapers, the senator said his wife and two of their children have been baptized in the Arizona Baptist church, but he had not. "I didn't find it necessary to do so for my spiritual needs," he said.

He told McClatchy he found the Baptist church more fulfilling than the Episcopalian church, but still referred to himself as an Episcopalian.

Greenville Republican state Sen. Mike Fair, a Baptist who serves as one of McCain's liaisons with the South Carolina religious community, said a person traditionally becomes a full member of a Baptist church by some kind of public expression of their faith, usually by being baptized.

McCain, at a campaign stop at a Veterans of Foreign Wars post in Anderson, said he has made plenty of public expressions of his faith. "I've done that hundreds of times," McCain said, adding he has spoken at length with his pastor at the church and has been told there is no need for him to be baptized to be a full member of the church.

The Associated Press asked McCain on Saturday how his Episcopal faith plays a role in his campaign and life. McCain grew up Episcopalian and attended an Episcopal high school in Alexandria, Va.

"It plays a role in my life. By the way, I'm not Episcopalian. I'm Baptist," McCain said. "Do I advertise my faith? Do I talk about it all the time? No."

McCain does discuss faith on the campaign trail. He regularly tells crowds about a North Vietnamese POW guard who would loosen his bindings while he was a prisoner. One Christmas, the man surreptitiously signaled his Christian faith, McCain says, by making the sign of a cross with his toe in the dirt.

McCain said Sunday he doesn't know how his Baptist faith might affect his showing in South Carolina.

"I have no idea," McCain said, laughing. "I was a member of that church in 2000 and it didn't save me then." McCain lost to George W. Bush in the hotly contested South Carolina primary seven years ago.

McCain made the comments after speaking to about 200 people on this resort island during a stop on his "No Surrender" tour, to push for support of U.S. troops and the president's strategy in Iraq.

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Associated Press writer Jim Davenport in Anderson, S.C., contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: baptist; christianvote; mccain; mccainandgod; missinglink; rinobaptist
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1 posted on 09/17/2007 6:33:08 AM PDT by presidio9
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Is he also a Yankees fan?...............


2 posted on 09/17/2007 6:35:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: presidio9

Well, he’s checking off one absolute requirement for social conservatives. Now he needs to get practicing on that southern accent. ;)


4 posted on 09/17/2007 6:38:22 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: presidio9

He was only an Episcopalian while Ronald Reagan was popular.


5 posted on 09/17/2007 6:39:08 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Red Badger

Locating a lost Jewish step-grandparent in 5....4....3....2...


6 posted on 09/17/2007 6:40:53 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: presidio9

Yeah, he’s a bedside Baptist.


7 posted on 09/17/2007 6:41:04 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

LOL!....Yeah, now all he has to do is tell us his daddy was a sharecropper...........


8 posted on 09/17/2007 6:44:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: presidio9

The Baptipalian? New form of political creature? At this point, if it would get him another vote McCain would probably claim to be an hermaphrodite.


9 posted on 09/17/2007 6:45:23 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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Every Baptist Church I know of keeps very clear records of church memberships. I am sure that said records could easily be found...if they exist. OF course, that is not the issue. I suspect that McLame has taken a page directly from Hillary - you know the one - where she changes her accent depending on her audience and the geographic/socio-economic status of the audience... IN this case, McLame is adjusting his denomination to suit his audience.

Or maybe he actually got a clue, spiritually. But do his actions speak louder than his words?


10 posted on 09/17/2007 6:45:45 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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the man surreptitiously signaled his Christian faith, McCain says, by making the sign of a cross with his toe in the dirt.

I guess Mr. Smith is a lot more comfortable sacking quarterbacks than he is talking about about religion. When somebody draws a cross in the dirt he is just making "a cross." Making "the sign of the cross" is something that Catholics in particular, and a few other Christian denominations do. It is something different. If Bruce is going to be comparing orders in this article, he might want to get that right.

11 posted on 09/17/2007 6:56:32 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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He is probably also whatever fits any given situation at the time............


12 posted on 09/17/2007 6:57:32 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: TommyDale
He was only an Episcopalian while Ronald Reagan was popular.

Ronald Reagan was a Presbyterian, but it is somewhat interesting to note that McCain's converstion out of Episcopalianism coincides with Jim McGreevey's arrival. coincidence?

13 posted on 09/17/2007 6:59:10 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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LOL!....Yeah, now all he has to do is tell us his daddy was a sharecropper...........

True, since his family ancestors were slave and plantation owners from Mississippi

14 posted on 09/17/2007 7:00:17 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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LOL! I didn’t know that!..............


15 posted on 09/17/2007 7:01:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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This must be McCain’s “Southern Strategy”.


16 posted on 09/17/2007 7:03:02 AM PDT by counterpunch (Ron Paul is gearing up to be Hillary Clinton's Ross Perot.)
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It plays a role in my life. By the way, I’m not Episcopalian. I’m Baptist,” McCain said. “Do I advertise my faith? Do I talk about it all the time? No.”
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17 posted on 09/17/2007 7:03:33 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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He was covering his bases by stating both as his affiliation over the years.

Wouldn’t you call that “equivocating?”


18 posted on 09/17/2007 7:14:02 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Red Badger

I’m guessing he’s part African-American as well....


19 posted on 09/17/2007 7:14:26 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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Do what? IIRC, he was listed as an Episcopalian last year. Didn’t that info come from him? He can be whatever he wants, but this has the same feel as Hillary talking about being “no how put down anyway” in front of a black audience.


20 posted on 09/17/2007 7:17:04 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Want authentic 1st century Christianity? Visit a local, New Testament Independent Baptist church!)
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