[msnpatriot]

Have always wondered about the true influence of the CFR and other organizations to U.S. policy and elections, including immigration issue. Freeper opinions welcomed.

[ansel12]

You do love your conspiracies.

About 6 months ago I was talking to a friend from my military days (he was French army intelligence), he explained to me that all the Republican candidates are CFR and that if one admits it, it is only because he is a moderate.
My Friend explained to me that the other candidates that do not admit it, are actually true believers that are the real powers to be within the organization and that are the ones to stop.

[Tears of a Clown]

I always imagined the CFR as a swanky hotel or conference room filled with a bunch of old farts discussing the policies of different countries in order to acertain where would be a good place to do business or court leaders in the future.

God knows there is no shortage of conspiracies, and there are bound to be a couple that end up being true.

It’s fun to think about, and I would prefer our leaders to be more open about who their friends are and what they discuss, but I’m not going to obsess over it...

[mnehring]

Ping

[sasportas]

Anybody know who started the CFR? And when? And for what purpose?

[wardaddy]

fellow travelers and mostly social libs

but not all

is FR creeping tonight for anyone else?

...i haven’t asked that in a long time

[mnehring]

Knowing several people who are members of the CFR, I laugh whenever I read conspiracies. Most of those who create the conspiracies have no idea what the CFR does, they simply pick and choose position research papers and try to make it proof of some sort of conspiracy.

Let me give you an example of what the CFR does and how it works.

Let’s say you are an adviser to Joe Senator from Bluevania, and you are tasked with researching some commerce options about chicken feathers. Instead of spending months on end researching all the laws, bylaws, and developing scenarios of what may happen based on different options, you go to the CFR and they do this research for you. The CFR gives you several position papers based on what they calculate the results will be based on your various positions. Those papers are often signed off or recommended by well respected members as to which will produce the result you are looking for. The CFR has only as much influence in that they provide research on a position and possible outcomes.

So who are the CFR members? Anyone who possibly would be involved in international commerce, law, or defense is a member of the CFR. You will be hard pressed to find any lawyer, politician, or lobbyist in DC who isn’t a member because they use the CFR for research the way we use WalMart for groceries. Members not only hire out the CFR but they also take part in presenting studies and research.

Let’s use a real life example everyone talks about, the infamous NAU document. What most people don’t realize, or never take a few minutes to research, is that the CFR has produced several position document on the NAU, from the one that is posted here, to others that recommend completely closed borders and commerce, to several that take the middle road, some with limited trade recommendations, others with examples of how to update NORAD for a common defense improvement.

This is why it is easy for people who want to, to paint CFR as a conspiracy. Based on the amount of research and position papers in their archives, you pretty much can prove the CFR is up to anything because they have papers on almost everything, covering all sides...

The CFR is just the archetype conspiratorial bogeyman, one that has been around for centuries. The story stays the same, only the names of the players change as one ‘conspiracy’ never happens and those who believe in them need a new conspiracy.

[exit82]

Tell you what—the opening sentence works for me.

[familyop]

Conspiracy stories are sometimes wild exaggerations devised to cover up real wrongdoing. Money from international slavery is not preferable to our Nation’s future defense.

[Will88]

I’ve heard the CFR described as the Globalists’ Chamber of Commerce.

[ken21]

i’d be more concerned if someone were not thinking and planning about the future.

[Saundra Duffy]

Fred Thompson is their pick for president and that scares the heck out of me.

[Nathan Zachary]

The UN building is full of them. The international monitary fund, power corp, the world bank, and a thousand other NGO's with choice elite people appointed to hide within them, ex Prime ministers and other former politicians and activists like Jane Goodall, put there by a group of unelected marxists, the worlds richest elite who control them all.

There is plenty of good reading here:

http://fathersforlife.org/education/home_schooling.htm

[anonsquared]

Based on watching this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&q=Freedom+to+Facism+Director%27s&total=2&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

I would say that Ron Paul is not CFR.

[roses of sharon]

LOL, American voters can change pols every 2, 4, and 6 years, who cares about the positions of a think tank?

Americans are not victims of the all powerful pol.

[endthematrix]

Find the CFR members:

Starting on the left: Former Secretary of Defense Harold Brown, former Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger, former Secretary of State James Baker, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, former Secretary of Defense James Schlesinger, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Vice President Dick Cheney, President George W. Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, former Secretary of State George Shultz, former Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird, former Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright , former Secretary of State Alexander Haig, former Secretary of Defense Frank Carlucci, former Secretary of Defense William Perry, and former Secretary of Defense William Cohen.

[Artemis Webb]

Those who believe all the hogwash about the dark powers and evil goals of the CFR are no better and indeed JUST LIKE THE 9/11 “TRUTHERS”.

You may take that as an insult.