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United Nations Jurisdiction Of The Seas ? - The Law Of The Seas Treaty
Red State ^ | Ken Taylor

Posted on 09/16/2007 11:40:42 AM PDT by processing please hold

A move by the Bush administration in May of this year which fell under the radar is soon to come to the Senate. On September 27th the Senate will debate and vote on the full ratification of the United Nations Conference on the Law of the Seas or in short The Law of the Seas Treaty. The treaty in essence gives the United Nation legal jurisdiction over the planets ocean and sets up a tribunal to govern all legal claims to territorial waters, mineral rights and mining and other uses of the worlds oceans, including navigation.

The treaty which has been in existence since the first Conference dating from 1973 - 1982 has never been ratified by The United States. When first presented in 1983 President Ronald Reagan categorically refused to even sign the treaty because he felt that it impugned on United States sovereignty.

Certain portions of the treaty have been beneficial and the United States abides by these terms as a matter of international law. For instance the treaty sets basic territorial waters and prevents nations who wish to push these territorial limits from over extending the recognized waters around their shore line borders. In other words in accordance to treaty limitations a nation cannot stretch its sovereign waters to a limit of say 250 miles and expect all other nations to abide by those unreasonable limits. Yet even with the treaty some countries have over extended their territorial waters without consequence. China and North Korea are among those.

The main contention that The United States has had to the treaty is Part XI which gives the UN full legal control in all mineral rights on every seabed found on the earths oceans. Without treaty ratification if a nation finds, for instance an mineral deposit in international waters and wishes to mine it then they are free to do so. Also ratification of the treaty would place United States fishing interest under the jurisdiction of the UN. U.S. fisheries would have fishing limits set by UN control and if those limits were exceeded they would be required to turn surplus catch over to distribution by the UN.

The Treaty would also require the United States to plead any case which questions the treaty before a non - elected United Nations Tribunal which then would decide in favor or against the United States. In light of the way every UN vote is conducted in recent years and the way that the United States is treated by that vote, this tribunal would be a disaster for U.S. interests. The UN after all loves U.S. money but hates U.S. interests.

In May the Bush Administration at the behest of career diplomats in the State Department urged the United States Senate to ratify all provision of the Treaty and the vote for this ratification begins on September 27th. In the past either a Republican President like Reagan or a Republican Majority in the Senate has blocked any ratification of the treaty. Now with a Democrat Majority who favors all UN control provides a distinct possibility of fully ratifying this treaty.

The dangers for the U.S. in this ratification are as follows:

1. The U.S. would be answerable to a UN unelected tribunal for all matters which involve the Seas and ocean borders of our nation.

2. Other countries environmental regulations could be forced on the United States through the UN and our surrounding waters by international law and mandate. The harvest of our fishing waters would also fall under UN mandate which will set limits and require fishing only in certain areas and relinquishing the surplus harvest to UN distribution. The requirement would also mandate over fishing in these particular areas.

3. The treaty would mandate recognized navigation rights. This provision is not only not necessary but not wanted by US interests because these UN mandated navigational lanes are not threatened by any international law and there is not a nation who has the capability of dictating to the US where we may travel, including the Navy in the world oceans.

4. The treaty gives a blank check to the UN on the spending of money supplied by the U.S. without ANY U.S. oversight.

5. The treaty gives eminent domain rights to the UN over intellectual property. In other words the UN would have the power to seize technology.

This treaty, if ratified, would allow the United Nations a free hand over all of the worlds oceans and any mineral actions taken in the oceans would not only come under UN jurisdiction, but would be taxable to the UN without ANY outside oversight on the spending of the monies acquired. All navigational lanes would be set by UN mandate and any country traveling outside of those mandated navigational lanes, including Navy's would be subject to action by the unelected UN tribunal.

This treaty, if ratified, would transfer wealth and technology by UN mandate from industrialized nations to third world countries. In other words a world wide socialized redistribution of wealth forcing the financial equality of all nations. This treaty would create a huge United Nations bureaucracy with legal jurisdiction over the worlds oceans. The UN has failed in the past in every instance where they have been allowed to run, oversee or control any program. Remember the Iraq Oil For Food Program. Now the US Senate is poised to ratify a treaty that dwarfs the Oil for Food Program both in scope and jurisdiction.

Since the treaty was written the opposition by the U.S. has caused many nations to not sign on to the treaty. The first Bush administration and the the Clinton administration proposed provisions that supposedly corrected the flaws and the Clinton signed the treaty in 1994 which caused some Nations to follow suit and others to ratify. The GOP controlled Senate stopped ratification and many nations who had signed the treaty have not ratified in accordance to the U.S. lead.

Now the present Bush administration is backing full ratification and a Democrat Senate who back the UN and adhere to socialist policies could very likely ratify the treaty. There are 34 no votes needed to prevent ratification. Call, write or e-mail you Senator and urge them to vote against ratification. Time is short. September 27th is just around the corner. This treaty will place vital United States interests under UN control and threatens our sovereignty as a nation which cannot be allowed.

We stopped the Senate Amnesty Bill and with a similar concentrated effort by the people we can prevent the ratification of the Law of the Seas Treaty and save American sovereignty and interests.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freedom; lawoftheseatreaty; liberty; lost; nationalsovereignty; newworldodor; newworldorder; oneworldgovernment; owg; un; unclos; unitednations; unitedstates; us; usa
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To: o_zarkman44
LOST could order our warships to stay in port when we need them to form an offensive or defensive position somewhere. And we would have to wait for a arbitartion panel of Unnies to decide, at their leisure, if our action is necessary.

I agree.

could it be more for control of our people with surveillance and travel documents than about protecting our nation from foreign intrusion?

They want to know where and what law abiding American are up to. Why don't they redirect that energy into throwing out illegal aliens and their families and leave us the hell alone.

But I guess that would defeat the purpose of open borders.

181 posted on 09/16/2007 6:51:01 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

Now....I didn’t say ACT like a crook....just think like one.

To catch a crook, you gotta stay one step ahead of them; that means you have to try to THINK that way....cynicism helps.

: )


182 posted on 09/16/2007 6:55:07 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Calpernia

Just let the UN kangaroo court try to prosecute Bush!
I thnk the DemoRats have first shot but they don’t have enough manly men to put a scare on a wet piece of toilet paper. Same for the United Nobodys. All talk. No action.


183 posted on 09/16/2007 6:58:14 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: o_zarkman44

>>>I thnk the DemoRats have first shot but they don’t have enough manly men to put a scare on a wet piece of toilet paper.

THAT is funny!!!!


184 posted on 09/16/2007 7:00:02 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: nicmarlo

Oh hell, I can act like one, no problem. LOL


185 posted on 09/16/2007 7:01:44 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

foflol! Oh no...the truth’s out now. : )


186 posted on 09/16/2007 7:02:18 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: processing please hold
Now the present Bush administration is backing full ratification...

Mexico must be benefitting from this somehow...

187 posted on 09/16/2007 7:03:15 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: ovrtaxt

ty for the ping, ot.


188 posted on 09/16/2007 7:03:35 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

shhhhhh, that’s just between you and me. Don’t tell anybody.


189 posted on 09/16/2007 7:04:49 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Bommer
Is Bush the Anti-Christ or was the left always right about him being dumber than a box of rocks??

I suspect the latter. Something about even stopped clocks being right twice a day comes to mind.

190 posted on 09/16/2007 7:05:06 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: processing please hold

oh...okay.

chant with me: *your posts are invisible*

: )


191 posted on 09/16/2007 7:07:56 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Mexico must be benefitting from this somehow...

Mexico supports unclos

Mexico

Declaration made after ratification (6 January 2003)

Declarations under articles 287 and 298

In accordance with the terms of article 287 of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, the Government of Mexico declares that it chooses, in no order of preference, one of the following means for the settlement of disputes concerning the interpretation or application of the Convention:

1. The International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea established in accordance with annex VI;

2. The International Court of Justice;

3. A special arbitral tribunal constituted in accordance with annex VIII for one or more of the categories of disputes specified therein.

"The Government of Mexico declares that, pursuant to article 298 of the Convention, it does not accept the procedures provided for in part XV, section 2, with respect to the following categories of disputes:

1. Disputes relating to sea boundary delimitations, or those involving historic bays or titles, pursuant to paragraph 1 (a) of article 298;

2. Disputes concerning military activities and the other activities referred to in paragraph 1 (b) of article 298.

192 posted on 09/16/2007 7:13:02 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: nicmarlo
chant with me: *your posts are invisible*

Hmmmmmm, hmmmmmmm, hmmmmmmm. Hey, it worked. I don't see them. lolololol

193 posted on 09/16/2007 7:14:40 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

lolol!!


194 posted on 09/16/2007 7:15:57 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...

PING!


195 posted on 09/16/2007 7:20:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Oh, Geesh, not THIS crap AGAIN?!?)
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To: processing please hold

Ever see this one?

http://justwhatithink.com/blog/zedilloandclinton.html
“1997 - Mexican President Zedillo and EX President Clinton Celebrate New Amendment For Mexican Dual Citizenship”


196 posted on 09/16/2007 7:20:49 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: processing please hold

In May the Bush Administration at the behest of career diplomats in the State Department urged the United States Senate to ratify all provision of the Treaty and the vote for this ratification begins on September 27th. In the past either a Republican President like Reagan or a Republican Majority in the Senate has blocked any ratification of the treaty. Now with a Democrat Majority who favors all UN control provides a distinct possibility of fully ratifying this treaty.

Alowly i have been losing faith in Mr. Bush...This is close to the last straw..How could he allow the UN to have any say whatsoever over US Policy or risk having the US hauled before an International Tribunal over violation of these treaty provisions.....UGH...it is time for Bush to go...Newt is right—we have to make a clean break if the Reps are to win in ‘08...


197 posted on 09/16/2007 7:21:34 PM PDT by billmor (UN UNweildy,UNgodly, UNneeded)
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To: Calpernia

sonofa.....No I haven’t. Thank you. Bookmarked.


198 posted on 09/16/2007 7:23:30 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: billmor

>>>In the past either a Republican President like Reagan or a Republican Majority in the Senate has blocked any ratification of the treaty.

Please read post 31.


199 posted on 09/16/2007 7:25:25 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: billmor
How could he allow the UN to have any say whatsoever over US Policy or risk having the US hauled before an International Tribunal over violation of these treaty provisions.....UGH...it is time for Bush to go...Newt is right—we have to make a clean break if the Reps are to win in ‘08...

I wonder how any American politician could sell out their own country's sovereignty without even a look back. It's astounding, positivity astounding.

The time limit on unclos being ratified is 2009.

I lost faith in him doing what's right for our country's interest a while back.

200 posted on 09/16/2007 7:28:59 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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