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Rigging a study to make conservatives look stupid.
Slate ^ | Sept. 14, 2007 | William Saletan

Posted on 09/14/2007 1:29:14 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: Right Wing Assault
suggesting greater neurocognitive sensitivity to cues for altering a habitual response pattern

Doesn't mean the response they altered to was the correct response, it just indicates they changed.

41 posted on 09/14/2007 1:52:47 PM PDT by EBH
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To: Enterprise

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!


42 posted on 09/14/2007 1:53:24 PM PDT by avacado
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To: neverdem

Sure you can, I do it all the time without even thinking about it.


43 posted on 09/14/2007 1:54:47 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: gridlock

Thanks for the link!


44 posted on 09/14/2007 1:56:05 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

ping for later


45 posted on 09/14/2007 1:57:44 PM PDT by ocr1
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To: neverdem
Seems there's one of these studies every three months.

My study concludes that liberals are more adept at mental masterbation, and every three months there is additional evidence to confirm my conclusion.

46 posted on 09/14/2007 1:58:23 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul
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To: gridlock
From today's Wall Street Journal: Most Science Studies Appear To Be Tainted By Sloppy Analysis

Who da thunk?

47 posted on 09/14/2007 1:59:54 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (California : home of the fruits, nuts and flakes.)
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To: x
Salatan's a liberal, but like his colleague Mickey Kaus, he lets the chips fall where they may and is fair more often than not.

Thanks for the feedback.

48 posted on 09/14/2007 2:00:51 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
If the largest portion of newspaper reporters are liberal, I’d say the opposite is true. There have been so many article titles that make absolutely no sense.

The same with TV reporters. I don’t think many intelligent people would stand outside hanging onto trees or signs in 100+ MPH wind reporting on hurricanes.

49 posted on 09/14/2007 2:01:34 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (DC scandals. Republicans address them, Democrats reelect them. (Tom DeLay 8/30/07))
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To: Brilliant
I wonder how they know who’s conservative and who’s liberal?

As explained...

Political attitudes questionnaire. A measure of political attitudes was embedded in a larger set of personality and attitudes surveys completed at the every beginning of the experimental session. Participants completed these questionnaires in private. Participants were instructed to not make any identifying marks on the questionnaires and, upon completion, to place the questionnaires into a large envelope. These questionnaires remained in these envelopes until the completion of the study, at which time they were entered into a computer database.

The critical political orientation item asked participants to indicate their political orientation on a scale ranging from Extremely Liberal (–5) to Extremely Conservative (+5), with neutral corresponding to 0. This single item has been shown to provide a valid and reliable measure of political orientation that is very strongly predictive of intended and actual behavior (e.g., voting decisions).

References:

Knight, K., in Measures of Political Attitudes, J.P. Robinson, P.R. Shaver, & L.S. Wrightsman, Eds. (Academic Press, San Diego, 1999), pp. 59-158.

Jost, J., Am. Psychol. 61, 651-670 (2006).

50 posted on 09/14/2007 2:02:15 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: EBH

The Cs pushed the letter m even when the letter w came up in a series of flashing m[s]; when they used a series of flashing w[s], Ls and Cs showed no signigicant difference in the errant m response.

7 subjects, 3Ls, 3Cs and one non-partisan; W[s] and M[s] the only two presses counted.


51 posted on 09/14/2007 2:02:34 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: neverdem
There was a liberal on powerlineblog.com the other day who was championing this "study" as proof that liberals are smarter than conservatives.

Someone responded that, according to an ABC exit poll of the 2000 presidential election, 80% of high school dropouts voted for Al Gore.

At any rate, this is just another "study" done by liberals to absolve other liberals of the choices that they make. Kind of like all the "homosexuality is biological and can't be helped" studies that get debunked every time a homosexual chooses to leave that lifestyle. Everyone chooses their beliefs and is responsible for the consequences resulting from acting on those choices.

The "study" is bogus.

52 posted on 09/14/2007 2:02:57 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: EBH

The correctness of the response was measured. However, distinguishing an M from a W is different from many other situations. “Liberals too quickly make changes based upon spurious input” might be the result if we looked at more complex issues. They are extrapolating ridiculously.


53 posted on 09/14/2007 2:03:57 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: neverdem

bttt


54 posted on 09/14/2007 2:04:18 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Brilliant

“I wonder how they know who’s conservative and who’s liberal?”

Easy, all the dumb ones must be conservatives.


55 posted on 09/14/2007 2:04:33 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Stark_GOP

This never gets old for some liberals - at least those with the incredibly large chips on their shoulder. There was the “IQ by State” fraud sent around in 2000 and in 2004 after Democrats lost the election, purporting to show that blue states have a higher average IQ than red states. Of course, no such data exists.

Then there was the Morgan Quitno study (that I believe they do every year) that ranked the “smartest state” based on 21 factors. Seeing a correlation between the “smarter” states and their political leanings, liberals ran with it. Of course, a closer examination of the 21 factors revealed that as few as 8 actually dealt with intelligence while the remainder dealt primarily with money. (The one overarching factor seemed to be the belief that throwing money at schools makes your state “smarter.”)

I ran the numbers myself a few years back and determined that based on test scores, there was no statistically significant difference between the blue states and the red states. I found that ironic since the raw data (actual test scores) showed that blue states are statistically identical to red states. Now, with the Morgan Quitno study, they are assuming that throwing money at schools makes you “smarter” when it actually does nothing to improve performance. I wouldn’t remove it from the study, though. I’d actually penalize states that spend more money, since they clearly don’t understand they are wasting money.


56 posted on 09/14/2007 2:05:54 PM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: neverdem
...whereas liberals are more responsive to informational complexity, ambiguity and novelty...

Perhaps so, but in their surfeit of responsiveness to complexity, ambiguity and novelty they seem to have lost the ability to distinguish between right and wrong, good and evil or other basic concepts...

57 posted on 09/14/2007 2:10:11 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: svcw

If liberals are so smart...why are they liberals?

Excellent point!


58 posted on 09/14/2007 2:11:10 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: Edgerunner
means if your information is complex, ambiguous, and new, the liberal will believe it without question...As I said, flight and changing just to change.
59 posted on 09/14/2007 2:14:38 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: neverdem

Who needs a rigged study, we’ve got Senators.


60 posted on 09/14/2007 2:15:21 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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