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[He objected, and was ordered to take a diversity course, which he did. Then at a staff meeting in August, he closed with a prayer in the name of Jesus, he said. "That's what sparked this issue. I have written documentation. I was pulled into the office on Friday and told 'Under no circumstances will you pray in this name again,'" he said. "I said, 'I can't abide by your wishes.' She also told me I should tell my volunteer chaplains they shouldn't pray in Jesus name either. About four or five days later, I was relieved of my duties." ]

This continues to happen over and over again in the new age communist run government of America.

1 posted on 09/14/2007 7:16:35 AM PDT by kindred
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To: kindred

Clever sidestepping of the issues by “the hospital”. Note no actual person taking responsiblity for the decision.

“Those duties include being respectful of the different religious beliefs of our patients” Translation: Those duties include being respectful of (pandering to) the non-Christian patients by not mentioning Jesus.”

This directly contradicts the statement: “The hospital said it dismissed Harvey from his $48,000-a-year post not because he was praying in the name of Jesus Christ”

Changing the words and blurring the issue does not change the real reason which is transparent to anyone who looks.


2 posted on 09/14/2007 7:27:09 AM PDT by generally (Ask me about FReepers Folding@Home)
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***...guidelines from the Association of Clinical Pastoral Education teach respect for all religions. ***

Which means: Mention no heavenly Father believed by ANY religion. So, why bother praying?


3 posted on 09/14/2007 7:43:35 AM PDT by kitkat (I refuse to let the DUers chase me off FR.)
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If you want to preach your specific religion become an independent preacher and you can make your speech as religion-, sect- or denomination-specific as you’d like whenever you want. But when you take that money to be a chaplain you are promising to support the religions of all under your care equally. If you want to pray to Jesus in your official capacity, you have to limit that to your services and counseling for Christians. Likewise, you shouldn’t be doing prayers to Allah with Christians.

Don’t like it? Don’t take the job.


4 posted on 09/14/2007 7:50:29 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: kindred

This was brought about because some left-wing Jewish chaplain got his panties in a twist.


5 posted on 09/14/2007 7:53:55 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: kindred

This problem happens far too often. Chaplains who understand that lots of people worship God, but only Christians worship Jesus, and yet want their prayers before mixed religious groups to reflect their belief in Jesus as God.

Now, if you think it is appropriate for him to do so, how would you feel if non-Christians in the assembly then loudly yell out, “Jesus is your god, he is not my God! Jesus is not God!”, each and every time he used the name Jesus?

In doing so, they would be as disrespectful to his beliefs as he was to theirs. But he would have “started it.”

And that is why such Chaplains are hired with the title of “Chaplain”, not hired as “Priest” or “Reverend” or “Rabbi” or “Imam”, it is done so with the assumption that they will give a non-denominational prayer to God. Not to “Jesus” or to “Allah”, either, but “God”.


6 posted on 09/14/2007 8:28:09 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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This is more and more about Klingenschmitt. He seems to be eating up the media interest.


14 posted on 09/14/2007 9:09:33 AM PDT by PurpleMan
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