Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Webb of Problems. A dangerous amendment.
NRO ^ | 14 September 2007 | By Frederick W. Kagan

Posted on 09/14/2007 6:52:44 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

Jim Webb, the loquacious freshman senator from Virginia, is again proposing an amendment that would mandate a certain amount of time that soldiers must spend at home between deployments. At first glance, supporting this amendment looks like supporting motherhood and apple pie — Webb’s stated aim is to take care of America’s soldiers at war, and who could possibly object to that? The amendment, furthermore, gives the president the right to waive the requirement “if the President certifies to Congress that the deployment…is necessary to meet an operational emergency posing a threat to vital national security interests of the United States.” So voting for this amendment is really just a way to show that you really care about the troops without actually tying the commanders’ hands, right? Wrong.

The amendment as offered earlier this summer (when it garnered 56 votes in the Senate) would present a nightmare in execution. It specified not only that a particular unit had to spend basically a day at home for every day it spent deployed, but that every member of the armed forces had to receive such “dwell time,” as the period between deployments is called. The problem is that when a unit returns from a deployment, its personnel are often reassigned to other units and other assignments. Brigades don’t stay together forever. So this amendment would actually require the Army and Marine Corps staffs to keep track of how long every individual servicemember had spent in either Iraq or Afghanistan, how long they had been at home, how long the unit that they were now in had spent deployed, and how long it had been home, and somehow find units to deploy that had been home for the specified time and all of whose personnel had also been home for the required period. Since that would be patently absurd, the alternative would be to pull people out of units that were going to deploy if those individuals did not have enough “dwell time,” breaking up leadership and soldier teams the formation of which is the express purpose of the Army and Marine training system. Requiring the president to issue a certification to Congress to waive this requirement for every individual soldier who might be affected is even more absurd.

A larger problem is that this amendment would insert a rigid inflexibility into the military planning process. Commanders make estimates about the forces they will require based on assumptions about current and likely future threats. If the commander of American forces in Iraq or Afghanistan concluded that some event were likely to require the deployment of additional forces to his theater, even for a brief time, this amendment would severely constrain the pool of units and personnel that could be sent. As an example, General George Casey has remarked that he requested and received additional forces some seven times in his tenure both to handle unforeseen emergencies and to help establish security for elections, for example. One could hardly construe the requirement to provide security for elections as an “operational emergency posing a threat to vital national security interests of the United States.” If Webb intends the waiver to be that broad, then this amendment is nothing but political grandstanding that will simply add to the mountains of paper that Congress and the Department of Defense exchange with each other without affecting the real world. But if the waiver is intended to be implemented as written, narrowly construed to address emergencies only, then it might well prevent the deployment of forces to handle foreseeable problems — a foolish thing to legislate.

Senator Webb claims to be concerned for the welfare of the troops, and no doubt he is. But one can also be concerned about the dangers our soldiers face when they do not have the necessary resources and reinforcements available. If American commanders are constrained to have only those “units and members” of the services in theater who have spent the requisite time at home, then a time will almost certainly come when they do not have the forces they need to accomplish their missions. If they can only request additional such forces in response to an operational emergency, then we should consider what that means on the ground. It means that the first thing that happens is that American soldiers may die who did not need to. Then the commanders will rush a request for additional forces up their chain of command. The president will certify to Congress that an emergency exists — and American soldiers and Marines will be fighting without necessary reinforcements as that happens. Then a unit will have to be hastily readied for premature deployment, sent to theater, moved into position, and finally arrive, certainly weeks and possibly months after the initial request. And all the time, American soldiers and Marines will have been fighting and dying. How is that taking care of them?

Lieutenant General Ray Odierno has been pressed repeatedly on the strain that 15-month tours place on his soldiers. He has repeatedly noted that there are two good ways to relieve that strain. First, win the war we’re fighting. Constraining the number of troops that can be sent to war is one way of legislating a “slow bleed” strategy. On the other hand, the sooner we accomplish our objectives, the sooner our forces can come home and stay. And if you believe that the war really is hopelessly lost, then the issue should not be the “dwell time” of soldiers and units, but ending it. Second, we could increase the size of the ground forces. The Bush administration resisted such proposals from Congress and outside analysts for years, just as the Clinton administration had resisted similar calls in the 1990s to expand the ground forces. Finally, grudgingly, the administration has announced an extremely modest program of expansion on a five-year timeline. If the critics of the current strategy who purport to be so concerned about the strain of the forces were serious, they would be pounding their desks and demanding a more aggressive program for expanding the ground forces. The fact that most of them have made no such demands speaks volumes about the real motivations of amendments such as this one.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 110th; cutandrun; iraq; rotation; surrendercrats; webb
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last
A totally disingenuous law, aimed at making it impossible for strategic planners to have enough available troops to continue the current mission. If Webb had real courage he would introduce the "End The Iraq War Now Amendment." That is the real goal of this dishonest farce.
1 posted on 09/14/2007 6:52:45 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

If George Allen was not such a disaster of a candidate, we would not be dealing with this Reagan reject.


2 posted on 09/14/2007 6:54:56 AM PDT by Rosemont
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

I hope Col David Hunt is happy that Webb got elected.


3 posted on 09/14/2007 6:56:24 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

Remind me again how many commanders-in-chief the Constitution authorizes?


4 posted on 09/14/2007 6:59:30 AM PDT by VRWCmember (Fred Thompson 2008! Taking America Back for Conservatives!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; AdSimp; society-by-contract; ...

Richmond ping.

Our junior (high school) senator is at it again. When Warner retires he’ll be the senior senator. Good grief.


5 posted on 09/14/2007 7:02:30 AM PDT by iceskater (Everyone has the right to be stupid....some people just abuse the priviledge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

I hope Webb isn’t becoming another “Murtha Marine”.


6 posted on 09/14/2007 7:05:21 AM PDT by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Help stamp out liberalism!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH
Oh what a tangled WEBB we weave. I can’t stand him or his bretheren.
7 posted on 09/14/2007 7:18:45 AM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSA Blalock-USS Ramage DDG61)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH

Webb will never be as blatantly disrespectful to the Marines as Murtha. But the politics are much the same.


8 posted on 09/14/2007 7:19:26 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Corin Stormhands

Not yet at least. We shall see after he gets a little more taste of POWER as a Senator. I have never understood how former Marines like Chuck Robb and Jim Webb could ever belong to a party which HATES our military. All the Marines I know are hawks and I mean REAL hawks.


9 posted on 09/14/2007 7:23:44 AM PDT by SWEETSUNNYSOUTH (Help stamp out liberalism!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH
too late...
10 posted on 09/14/2007 7:40:32 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (James Hansen; Scott Thomas Beauchamp with a PhD)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: .cnI redruM

Webb (Lt Dan) is nothing more than an elected Cindy Sheehan.


11 posted on 09/14/2007 8:25:28 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: P8riot

His son is currently serving. I think there is a conflict of interest (no pun intended) for him in sponsoring this bill. One could make the argument that he is only doing this because he wants his son home.


12 posted on 09/14/2007 8:30:54 AM PDT by iceskater (Everyone has the right to be stupid....some people just abuse the priviledge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: iceskater

That’s my feeling too.


13 posted on 09/14/2007 8:37:46 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: iceskater; P8riot
One could make the argument that he is only doing this because he wants his son home.

And he's willing to slug the President to make his point.

14 posted on 09/14/2007 8:39:49 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH

Too late.


15 posted on 09/14/2007 8:40:12 AM PDT by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Rosemont
If Virginia residents were not such emotionally immature idiots, a good conservative Senator like Allen would be in office working for the defeat of our enemy in Iraq.
16 posted on 09/14/2007 8:43:19 AM PDT by roses of sharon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

Ouch!


17 posted on 09/14/2007 8:57:15 AM PDT by Flora McDonald (Stand The Storm!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon; Flora McDonald; iceskater; P8riot
Oh bite me.

Some of us worked our butts off to keep this moron out of office. And a d@mn good percentage of freepers worked against us.

18 posted on 09/14/2007 9:37:00 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH

He’s already there.


19 posted on 09/14/2007 9:41:45 AM PDT by mimaw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: iceskater

Looks like they have given up on “For the Children” to get bills passed, and now have turned to “For the Troops”.


20 posted on 09/14/2007 1:01:18 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-34 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson