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FRED'S FLOP
The New York Post ^ | Sept 13,2007 | George F. Will

Posted on 09/13/2007 3:03:06 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776

Thompson, contrary to his current memories, was deeply involved in expanding government restrictions on political speech generally and the ban on issue ads specifically. Yet he told Ingraham "I voted for all of it," meaning McCain-Feingold, but said "I don't support that" provision of it.

Oh? Why, then, did he file his own brief urging the Supreme Court to uphold McCain-Feingold, stressing Congress' especially "compelling interest" in squelching issue ads that "influence" elections?

Most lamely, Thompson takes credit for McCain-Feingold doubling the amount of "hard money" an individual can give to a candidate, which he says reduces the advantages of incumbency. But that is absurd: Most hard money flows to incumbe

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; bowtiedaddy; elections; fredthompson; georgewill; giuiliani; mccain
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To: Flintlock
will... a man that if you search ten thousand of my posts... you will find that I have skewered this nancy-boy many times... he is a wannabe conservative (small c) and he is a paid dim plant... rolled out during the times that Republicans are making advances on the islamo-socialist party... he is indeed an ankle biter and shallow little man... he knows baseball far better than politics... and his predictions are less accurate than the toe sucker’s!

LLS

21 posted on 09/13/2007 4:20:18 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Jim Noble

We have read Fred’s posistion papers and op ed pieces... we KNOW because we have read the man’s words.

LLS


22 posted on 09/13/2007 4:21:53 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: GeronL

I guess Thompson’s blood just isn’t blue enough for Will.


23 posted on 09/13/2007 4:24:07 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: GeronL

Duncan keeps sounding better..


24 posted on 09/13/2007 4:25:12 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: Jim Noble

“They’re posting Fred quotes from “Hunt for Red October”, for heaven’s sake, as if Admiral Painter were real and were running for President.”

Link please?


25 posted on 09/13/2007 4:34:15 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Reagan didn’t have this problem in 1976 or 1980. Of course, Reagan knew what he believed in.


26 posted on 09/13/2007 4:34:28 AM PDT by MSF BU
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To: Neville72
link please

Didn't save it, too many Fred threads to search. It was the one about the Russians not taking a dump without a plan.

FDT may be for real. We'll see, in time.

27 posted on 09/13/2007 4:38:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: acsuc99

I’ve seen Fred—twice. I was impressed and his performance on FOX and Friends the day after Des Moines was stellar.


28 posted on 09/13/2007 4:41:15 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: MSF BU

Reagan didn’t have this problem in 1976 or 1980. Of course, Reagan knew what he believed in.

Maybe you weren’t around then and so you can be excused for your ignorance.

Ronaldus Maximus was pilloried in 1976 by Gerald Ford and other(RINOs) “establishment” (read country club) Republicans as being a loose cannon, a cowboy and “only an actor” who would get us into a nuclear exchange with the Soviets.

The attack of the RINOs worked in ‘76, didn’t in ‘80.


29 posted on 09/13/2007 4:43:30 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: DB
Our choices suck.

You mean the choices the media made for us?

None of them are my choice.

What sucks is people willing to accept the choices given, and willingly supporting them because "only they can beat Hillary"

30 posted on 09/13/2007 4:46:11 AM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Neville72

What I meant was that Reagan did not have a problem with standing on his record. I worked in both the 1976 and 1980 primary campaigns; oddly enough, I haven’t read anything about Fred mentioning that he worked in the Reagan campaigns during those years.


31 posted on 09/13/2007 4:51:16 AM PDT by MSF BU
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To: LibLieSlayer; Flintlock

I agree with you mostly concerning George Will. He did however, write something a few years back that has always stuck with me. It concerned the military and his praise for the men and women serving. Specifically, he wrote of the carrier pilots and one line of his that always stuck with me - you can’t pay people enough to do what they do. That can be said of the majority of the military. The pay is not the reason they are there. And since I left the military in 1996, I always felt something was missing and could not put my finger on it until a year or so ago, when I met a retired officer at a birthday party. He said what is missing is a sense of mission - that what you are doing is important. That is what is missing in my job and all other jobs I have had since leaving - that what I am doing is important to the nation. It is not and I miss that the most.


32 posted on 09/13/2007 4:51:45 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Neville72; All
you can be excused for your ignorance.

Don't start with the personal attacks ok.

Right now Fred is my guy. That can change but not from what I've seen yet.

He's the only one I know of that's come out with a press release condemning this MoveOn.org Betray Us add.That's important to me. Not something that happened a long time ago. I think Ronald Reagan used to be a democrat didn't he?

I don't have a lot to say bad about all of the other candidates.

I like Duncan the best but I don't think he can get elected. Fred can.

I do believe Ron Paul should be kicked out of the GOP. He's not one of us.

...Failing to get elected as a Libertarian Party presidential candidate, Rep. Ron Paul turned to the Republican Party to win Texas' 14th Congressional District...

33 posted on 09/13/2007 4:55:42 AM PDT by McGruff (If I can't have Cheney, Fred will have to do.)
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To: Neville72; MSF BU

I remember sometime in the early 70’s - 73 or 74 - I heard a speech given by Ronald Reagan on television. I could not tell you what the speech was about but I remember to this day being thrilled and animated by his words, his conviction. I remember two things in the early moments of his 1980 campaign. One - when he refused to give up his microphone, saying he paid for it and by damn, he was going to speak. The other was the debate with Carter - after Carter stated he got his nuke policy advice from his daughter. The look on Reagan’s face was priceless - a ‘can you believe that’ look. To me, he signified strength and conviction. I served in the Navy during Carter’s time and it was a mess. I left in 80 and came back in 82. It was like night and day. Thos six years under Reagan was when I felt the most proud of being a United States sailor.


34 posted on 09/13/2007 4:57:39 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
You got that right!
When you look at George Wills other positions such as:

"What "forced" America to go to war in 2003 -- the "gathering danger" of weapons of mass destruction -- was fictitious. That is one reason this war will not be fought, at least not by Americans, to the bitter end."

"Petraeus' metrics of success might ignite more arguments than they settle. In America, police drug sweeps often produce metrics of success but dealers soon relocate their operations."


Does George Will write these with his head in the sand?
Why does he not see the forest for all those dang trees he is so busy besmirching.

Oh, well, guess he will label himself as an eloquent Cindy Sheehan, or another Jessie Jackson -
35 posted on 09/13/2007 4:58:56 AM PDT by DelaWhere (I'm with Fred!)
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To: acsuc99
What is most amazing is how many Freepers have fallen head over heels for Fred.

I have posted this comment several times and I think it still holds true:

Many are projecting what they want Fred to be rather than what Fred is/was.

So far, the only real committment I have heard/read from Fred is that he will deport illegals. He didn't, however, saw how, and his Senate/political history shows him as not particularly a strong supporter of such measures. He has said deporting millions is not practical. So, he is still hedging on border/illegals issues.

I am still waiting to hear what else Fred says [not his bots, not his publicists, not his pre-announcement commentaries] he would do regarding major issues facing the Nation.
36 posted on 09/13/2007 5:00:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: acsuc99

I’m with you... a lot of primarily social conservatives have projected a whole lot of stuff onto Thompson that just isn’t there. He’s the Republican version of Obama this election.

The “Great White Hope”...

We’ll see, but I haven’t seen anything out of Thompson I find impressive at all. He’s flubbed and incredibly softball question regarding his activities and abortion advocation back when he was an attorney. He’s only spoken to incredibly partisan crowds, and when he does he has just completely pandered to them.. he says what they want to hear. I have not seen anything out of the Thompson race yet that impresses me, and I think a lot of folks who are jumping on this bandwagon are doing so out of what they HOPE and WANT him to be.. not out of what he is.


37 posted on 09/13/2007 5:00:56 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: acsuc99; Darkwolf377; DB; AmericanMade1776

Fred’s popularity is most informative about the dearth of other candidates...not so much about him, as nobody knows anything much about him.

Anybody new could show up, imo, and they’d do well just because people are optimistic and assume that anybody is likely to be better than the pro-pols and good hair idiots on both sides that they already know all too well.


38 posted on 09/13/2007 5:03:44 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: DB
Our choices suck.

Even with Fred in, the current field splits roughly 25% to each of the top 4. And Newt is still begging for loyalists to beg him to join the fray.

Unless something spectacular happens, it is quite conceivable that none of the top 3 or 4 can garder enough delegate votes to be a clear winner as the Convention begins.

It will be interesting to see who would emerge from a brokered convention.

The danger for the GOP with that is it could split the party and give the presumptive Dem nominee (HClinton) enough to win in 2008. The RNC will push a big-business/pro-comprehensive immigration candidate who could alienate a large segment of the right-of-center conservatives.
39 posted on 09/13/2007 5:13:08 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 7thson

GOD bless you and ALL that have or are serving.

LLS


40 posted on 09/13/2007 5:13:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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