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Senate votes to ban Mexican trucks
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | Sep. 11, 2007 | Suzanne Gamboa

Posted on 09/11/2007 5:09:04 PM PDT by ruination

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To: ruination
Well Petraus put them in their place now it’s time to find a new way to punish Bush they could care less about the Mexican Trucks ! their just looking for some payback ! don't forget what todays democrat is !
221 posted on 09/11/2007 7:11:42 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (In everyday life there is more than meets the eye to reach the depths of truth we must DRAGTHEWATERS)
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To: eleni121

If we do not follow the NAFTA agreement and block the trucks, Mexico will retaliate with unilateral tariffs. The result will be less trade and higher prices. As I understand, the US cannot unilaterly change the NAFTA agreement. The Mexican trucks are coming. We need to ensure reasonable safety regulations, English speaking drivers, and no contraband and illegal immigration.

Loading and unloading goods at the border is highly inefficient. Allowing freer movement of goods will lead to lower prices for consumers and ultimately more jobs and economic growth. If you favor the current inefficient practice, do you also support restrictions on airline travel? Should you be required to fly a Mexican airline when crossing into Mexico? Should Mexicans be required to fly a US airline when flying into the US?


222 posted on 09/11/2007 7:12:18 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: mdefranc
Gee whiz, Big Brother, I guess it takes a village!

Knew you'd see it that way. Because you still don't understand it.

And since you don't understand nationhood except within the context of a socialist state, then I guess you'll just have to admit that you're a boy without a country. All you got is the dog, right?

And of course the rest of the planet will see that as a righteous path and respect your independence and defend your property and rights without question. Of course they will. You need no one and no one...needs you.

Of course they will.

223 posted on 09/11/2007 7:12:43 PM PDT by Regulator (Check your six, bud. Ain't no one there...)
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To: bill1952

thanks you for that very clear response -

now, having read it, why is President Bush being made the fall guy?

Of course, it has become obvious he is willing to take blame, to be a scape goat, for others’ questionable actions, since his time is short


224 posted on 09/11/2007 7:14:10 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: businessprofessor

I’m not entirely deaf to your arguement. I just don’t see any benefit of surrending a whole industry to foreign nationals on U.S. soil.

Make the case that some manufacturing jobs moved to Mexico might help them down there and help us too, I might buy some of it. I just don’t buy this.

I’m going to do you a favor. I’m a tough nut to crack on this issue. I’ve gone round and round with people for days on the subject. You may be right and five times more intelligent, I just don’t buy into the current accepted practice. You’ll be beating your head against the wall as will I.

I do appreciate your comments. I’m not saying that in all instances I disagree. I will say that as a general rule I do.

Your inclusion of the retraining was reasoned IMO.

Thanks for the comments. Take care.

D1


225 posted on 09/11/2007 7:14:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ((Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking its heritage.))
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To: dragnet2

BUMP!


226 posted on 09/11/2007 7:15:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: mdefranc
Why assume someone born here is of necessity superior to someone not so fortunate as to their birthplace?

American "superiority" (your word) isn't racial, as you are weakly attempting to insinuate. It is professional superiority, and it is born of our free market, our educational system, our legal system, our workplace training, and our national pride in working hard and getting the job done the right way.
227 posted on 09/11/2007 7:16:16 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: businessprofessor

What you say makes perfect sense to me..but not to he emotional nativists around here.

Security? of course.

Banning legitimate trade? Stupid and misguided.


228 posted on 09/11/2007 7:16:34 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: mdefranc

The only way to compete with a second rate economic power is to lower yourself to that second rate economic level and work for less . I’m with the Teamsters on this, as it affects ALL American truckers , not just the Teamsters .

I don’t want the U.S. to become like Mexico, do you ?

Free trade isn’t .... It has a cost ...


229 posted on 09/11/2007 7:17:45 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Stop Rudy - Vote Thompson)
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To: ruination

“...and may amount to discrimination against Mexico.”

It’s more like “discrimination” against the traitors that want the American people to “say ah” as they ram Mexico — the juggernaut of the NAU in train — down our collective throats!


230 posted on 09/11/2007 7:18:53 PM PDT by STE=Q ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." (Will Rogers))
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To: Neu Pragmatist
The only way to compete with a second rate economic power is to lower yourself to that second rate economic level and work for less

No it's not. The way to compete with any economic power is to focus on what you can do more efficiently than they can.

231 posted on 09/11/2007 7:20:19 PM PDT by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: em2vn

Your argumentive skills are poor consisting of personal attacks. Who taught you how to argue and persuade?

I was responding to the suggestion that someone who voiced a contradictory opinion at a union meeting deserved to be assaulted. I think that such behavior would be criminal if your local Democrat would enforce the law.

I am proud to stand against monopolists: OPEC, unions, and organized crime. Scab is a derogatory word for a competitor. The foundation of our economy is competition. Are you against competition? Competition is created by competitors. Why can’t unions compete?


232 posted on 09/11/2007 7:20:31 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: businessprofessor
"Loading and unloading goods at the border is highly inefficient."

Efficiency? You will open up the US to potential chaos and put the average US citizen at risk for increased crime and decreased income for efficiency?

Come on..you had better do better than that.

233 posted on 09/11/2007 7:21:29 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: dragnet2
Without the benefit of competition the unionized driver is not motivated to improve his driving or the way he does his job or his efficiency. In fact, his union will see to it that his profession stagnates...along with him.

As for the “50 year old driver”...or teacher...or anyone else who refuses to keep up with innovation and efficiency that comes from competition ...too darn bad.

To all: Beware of hyper emotional appeals to nativism such as those posted by dragnet2.

234 posted on 09/11/2007 7:22:06 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: businessprofessor
Another straw man argument. you are myopically predictable.

What we could do to Mexico economically would be immeasurable and devastating to Mexico, not the US.

235 posted on 09/11/2007 7:23:22 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: papasmurf

So because I disagree with you on this issue I must be a liberal?


236 posted on 09/11/2007 7:23:59 PM PDT by scarface367 (The problem is we have yet to find a cure for stupid)
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To: dragnet2

Lunacy is right! Freepers willing to cut truckers pay by 80% to compete with Mexican labor!! Good Lord!!!!


237 posted on 09/11/2007 7:24:50 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: TomGuy
So, explain again why we must vote R???? Well even a broken watch is right twice a day. I see it was along party lines. The Dems would vote for Satan before they would vote for anything that would help the U.S. Military or President Bush. Irregardless, I feel it was the correct vote.
238 posted on 09/11/2007 7:32:10 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: scarface367

I don’t think the Mexican trucking firms will be held to the same regulatory standards as U.S. companies, so it is already an unfair playing field .

It’s the same as trying to “compete” with the government subsidized companies in China . It’s impossible for us to compete with certain countries on a cost level, without lowering our wages and standard of living.


239 posted on 09/11/2007 7:32:55 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (Stop Rudy - Vote Thompson)
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To: ruination

What hypocrites. They’re all for amnesty for illegal aliens, but, hey, Mexican trucks taking money away from our Union contributors? No way, Jose...


240 posted on 09/11/2007 7:33:04 PM PDT by DesScorp
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