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Advanced Russian Air Defense Missile Cannot Protect Syrian And Iranian Skies
DebkaFile ^ | September 7, 2007

Posted on 09/07/2007 7:01:57 AM PDT by Fennie

DEBKAfile's military experts conclude from the way Damascus described the episode Wednesday, Sept. 6, that the Pantsyr-S1E missiles, purchased from Russia to repel air assailants, failed to down the Israeli jets accused of penetrating northern Syrian airspace from the Mediterranean the night before. The new Pantsyr missiles therefore leave Syrian and Iranian airspace vulnerable to hostile intrusion...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aerospace; iran; iraq; military; russia; sept62007; syria

1 posted on 09/07/2007 7:02:00 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Fennie
Yeah, yeah, I know that it's from Debka. I take the message with the usual huge grain of salt but I still trust Debka more than I do the American MSM. Of course, I trust Charles Manson more than the MSM, so that's not exactly a ringing endorsement.

What penetration of northern Syrian airspace? Did I miss something?

2 posted on 09/07/2007 7:09:05 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Fennie

I see Ivan’s crap still sucks! Good!!!

LLS


3 posted on 09/07/2007 7:09:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Yeah - it’s all irrelevant to us anyway - they won’t see those F-22s coming anyway ;-) Nothing to shoot at until after you’ve been blown up.

Got to love stealth.


4 posted on 09/07/2007 7:11:42 AM PDT by fremont_steve (Milpitas - a great place to be FROM!)
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To: fremont_steve

GOD I do love America and our collective talent! I just wish we could get rid of those that hate their own country!!!

LLS


5 posted on 09/07/2007 7:13:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I see Ivan’s crap still sucks! Good!!!

In all fairness to Ivan, Arab operators have never done well with any equipment. They do OK using a knife to the throat when the victim is tied up, but when it gets slightly more complicated their hatred of modernity works against them.

6 posted on 09/07/2007 7:14:09 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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I hope the Russians provided the technicians too.
That way a few can get the full benefit of a HARM jammed up their a##.


7 posted on 09/07/2007 7:17:01 AM PDT by Kozak
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To: SampleMan

Their military is run by cronies. That’s why the fail so often.

If you light up your SA-300 radar, you will get incoming. Even they know that. Best to pray the aircraft passes you by.


8 posted on 09/07/2007 7:17:12 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Kozak

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/pantsyr/


9 posted on 09/07/2007 7:40:34 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Fennie

Of course, the advanced system is comprised of hundreds of midgets placed around the country who shout “De planes! De planes!” whenever they see something.


10 posted on 09/07/2007 8:23:09 AM PDT by Reaganesque (Romney for President 2008)
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To: Kozak

“I hope the Russians provided the technicians too.
That way a few can get the full benefit of a HARM jammed up their a##.”

I’ll bet the Russians are smart enough to stay away for that very reason.

So, the latest SAM from Russia fails to take down F-15’s/F-16’s with modern, but probably not the latest generation, ECM?

I think this is another clear example of superior Israeli training and tactics.


11 posted on 09/07/2007 8:35:07 AM PDT by ryan71 (I refuse to label anything I post, "sarcasm".)
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To: AppyPappy

LOL

SA-300 RADAR = bomb magnet.

Any active emitter on a modern battlefield is like shining a searchlight into the dark sky - maybe the operator will see something - but everyone can sure see you!

The old Shrike system was pretty good, the new stuff - whoh dude, totaly awesome.


12 posted on 09/07/2007 8:38:55 AM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: DallasMike

Yes, you missed something.


13 posted on 09/07/2007 8:54:45 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Fennie
This is good news. But it could also be that the Syrians and Russians held back so as not to tip that their resistance to ECM Electronic Counter Measures was sufficient. Setting us and the Israelis up for a real surprise.

Plus, too many such demonstrations may afford them an opportunity to find a chink in the methods and operations used.

14 posted on 09/07/2007 11:50:18 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Fennie

Is it somehow confirmed that the jets were attacked by Pantsyrs? This article consists of a lot of assumptions.


15 posted on 09/07/2007 1:05:41 PM PDT by PoliticsAndSausages
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To: PoliticsAndSausages

Wake Up Bush !!!


16 posted on 09/07/2007 10:22:44 PM PDT by Fennie
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