Skip to comments.Top Secret: Bush Told the Truth About WMD
Posted on 09/07/2007 7:01:49 AM PDT by SJackson
The secrets out: on August 24th, 2007, UN weapons inspectors found 6 to 8 vials of chemical weapons sitting in an office at the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) headquarters in NYC. They found the vials when archiving files due to the fact that UNMOVIC is closing down its mission. They placed the vials in a sealed package and put them in a safe located in a secured room. Subsequently, on August 29, 2007, UNMOVIC employees discovered the inventory list which listed the content of the vials.
The vials contained the chemical phosgene, which according to the Center for Disease Control causes blurred vision, a burning sensation in the eyes and throat, difficulty breathing, coughing, nausea, vomiting, heart failure, fluid in the lungs, and death. It is a clear liquid, and when stored at room temperature, it converts to a poisoness gas. It was used as a choking agent in World War I and was responsible for multitudes of fatalities. In 1987 it was used by Iran during the Iran-Iraq War.
The FBI and NYC Police were called in to remove the vials, during which time UNMOVIC staff and other tenants on the same floor were asked to temporarily evacuate. Additionally, the UN building was sectioned off from the public and photographers. But not to worry. Jerry Haver, NYCs former Emergency Services Directory explained, [I]f it is properly sealed, it should not pose much of a threat unless it is dropped. How comforting.
The vials were originally obtained by UNMOVIC in 1996, but apparently sat in the office unnoticed for the past decade. Normally, such vials should have been sent directly to the lab for testing and not to the UNMOVIC headquarters, but I suppose anyone could make such a mistake. Or .at least we know the UN can.
The UN is steeped in scandal, corruption, immorality, incompetence, and unaccountability. This is demonstrated by the Oil for Food scandal, the farce of the UN Human Rights Commission, the UNs refusal to acknowledge the genocide in Darfur, the failures of its peacekeeping missions around the globe, including those in Rwanda and in Lebanon (1975). Historical as well current events are replete with numerous other examples as well. The UN often fails to promote peace as it is mandated to, and indeed, often hinders the peace process. Yet, the UN enjoys the benefits of international legitimacy, diplomatic immunity, and a twenty billion dollar per year budget (approximately 25% of which is funded by the US, making our nation the UNs single largest contributor). But, I digress.
So, who is UNMOVIC? It is the agency which was created to replace the United Nations Special Commission Inspectors (UNSCOM). UNSCOM, established by Security Council Resolution 687 in 1991, was the original group sent to inspect Iraq for WMD. However, in 1998 the UNSCOM inspections collapsed when Iraq blocked the inspectors access. Subsequently, in 1999 the UN Security Council adopted Security Council Resolution 1284 which created UNMOVIC to continue with the mandate of disarming Iraq of its WMDs, and to monitor and verify Iraqs compliance. In reality, UNMOVIC did not enter Iraq until 2002 after the passage of UN Resolution 1441, which threatened serious consequences if Iraq failed to comply with it obligations. And, unlike UNSCOM, UNMOVICs commission was made up at least partially of UN employees.
The vials found at UNMOVIC headquarters came from Al Muthanna, Iraqs prime facility for chemical weapons research, production and storage. In 1984, with the intent to develop greater self reliance in the production of chemical munitions, Iraq began to create facilities that would be dual use, i.e. they would be used for a legitimate programs as well as WMD programs. Iraqs state construction company, Al Fao General Establishment, was involved in the construction of all Iraqs sites and facilities involving chemical weapons, biological weapons, and other WMDs. This included Al Muthanna. Not surprisingly, Iraq insinuated that Al Muthanna was designed merely for research on pesticides, and originally named the facility the State Establishment for Pesticide Production. However, according to UNMOVICs documents, this facility was authorized to produce casings for radiological bombs. It also worked closely with Iraqs nuclear program and obtained its information from the same technical research center as the Al Hakam biological weapons facility.
Also according to its own documents, UNMOVIC found, identified and commenced the destruction of approximately 50 litres of mustard, as well as other chemicals. But, presumably that didnt count as WMD because it was nothing new from UNSCOMs findings and the destruction of these chemicals was merely a continuation of the pre-existing process. However, UNMOVIC admitted that it was not possible to verify the destruction of all WMDs or Iraqs declarations regarding the quantities of biological weapons and chemical weapons, because Iraq did not retain complete production, storage and deployment records. Iraq claimed that these records were unilaterally destroyed.
Most important, UNMOVICs compendium summary entitled, observations and lessons learned prefaces its conclusions by stating that the life of the UNMOVIC inspections (November 2002 through March 2003), a mere five months, was much shorter than anticipated. It explains that had UNMOVIC been provided with the time necessary, it might have been able to set forth a more detailed and thorough report and pursue questions raised to conclusion. It explicitly warns that the strict time constraints under which it was operating, limit the confidence in the inspection results obtained.
Former Prime Minister Tony Blair, in one of his speeches arguing in favor of invading Iraq, he explained the dilemma something to this effect:
Lets say one day you go to a mans home and enter his bedroom. In the top drawer of his night table you find a gun, which he admits he owns. Now lets say a month later you go to that same mans house and go to his bedroom. You look in the dresser drawer and the gun isnt there. You ask him wheres the gun? If he says, what gun? I dont know anything about a gun, you cant just say Ok and take his word for it. He had the gun before, so one of two things happened. Either he still has the gun and hid it somewhere, or he disposed of the gun, in which case he should be able to explain how he disposed of it. But in no case, can you conclude that the gun never existed in the first place.
Yet, that is exactly what Saddam Hussein did, and somehow the left still found him credible. Bush must be the one who lied!
This is the question: since at some point Saddam Hussein admitted that he had stockpiles of WMD, how could he have subsequently made them vanish into thin air without a trace, without documentation, without evidence of destruction, without residual contamination, and without witnesses?
We now know beyond a shadow of a doubt that some of the chemical agents landed in UNMOVICs office. It strains credulity to think that eight vials encompassed the entire sum of Saddams chemical stockpile. However, it does not at all strain credulity to realize that the mainstream press is hardly mentioning this discovery, despite the fact that it has been known for a week. Does this new-found evidence lend credence to the Administrations decision to invade Iraq? Is it possible that President Bush told the truth about Iraqs WMDs? Shhh
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So the media will hold on to the whole "Bush lied about WMD" thing a while longer.
Old media = slow media.
This was disputed several days ago - tests on the stuff showed no WMD.
“This was disputed several days ago - tests on the stuff showed no WMD.”
Assume you believe the test results.
"[Iraq weapons inspector David] Kay has also speculated that Saddam may have thought he had WMD because his own generals and scientists lied to him. "The scientists were able to fake programs," the chief inspector says. This is entirely plausible, because aides who didn't tell Saddam what he wanted to hear were often tortured and killed. We know from post-invasion interrogations that Saddam's own generals believed that Iraq had WMD. If they thought so, it's hard to fault the CIA for believing it too."
The confusion is, in itself, significant. If the UN can’t keep track of their own seized materials, how are they going to track materials that someone is trying to hide?
“So the media will hold on to the whole “Bush lied about WMD” thing a while longer.”
But the media still can’t answer the gun in the dresser question: What happened to the WMD’s that Iraq is known to have had?
The confusion is, in itself, significant. If the UN cant keep track of their own seized materials, how are they going to track materials that someone is trying to hide?
The UN remains a farse and a terrorist-supporting bunch of anti-American losers. They should have been thrown out of this country and sent to Cuba or Europe where they belong. Their incompetence is exceeded only by their criminality. Just ask Kofi Annan.
This has been all over the MSM. Hasn’t anyone else seen it?
Oh, that's not a problem. The media just doesn't ask that question, so the lack of an answer is not apparent to most of the voters.
Media bias is in what the media says, and also in what the media decides not to say (or ask).
I don't watch the news much. About the only thing I've heard on it for the last 2 weeks is Larry Craig wah wah wah, Larry Craig wah wah, Larry Craig waaaahh. Oh yeah, an Steve Fossett.
I come to FR to find out whats really happening in the world.
I sure do hear you on that. I only watch Fox and even they were beating that horse to death.
“What happened to the WMDs that Iraq is known to have had?”
I believe they were moved elsewhere. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t recall any of these inspections being a total surprise.
I always assumed they were ahead of the inspectors just far enough to hide or move it all.
As always, it was the facilities and programs to produce WMD that were the whole point. Those were found.
Chem and Bio weapons stockpiles would never have been all that large anyway. You don’t need very much of either one on hand even if you’re planning to use them in upcoming combat operations. You don’t *want* very much around. It’s very much a make-and-use on-the-spot sort of thing.
Large stockpiles of such things become a very complex logistics problem. They can leak. Shelf-lives expire, and then you’ve got a big cleanup and disposal problem.
So this vision the media keeps pushing of proposed huge vaults full of thousands of chemical-filled artillery shells is just a fantasy. It would be highly unlikely that there was ever very much on hand at any given moment.
It was the means to produce them and the willingness to use them and sell them to terrorist groups that was the problem. WAS the problem. Now it’s not the problem.
I’ve said this from day one. The left accomplished a very important victory from the start - they framed the war as imposing a burden on the US to prove Iraq had WMDs. That was never the case. The burden was on Iraq to prove it didn’t and it failed. Not finding large stockpiles was not a failure, a lie, etc. It was a mystery. Where the hell did it all go? There’s no proof it was every destroyed. To date we have no idea where the WMDs they said they had went. As Hans Blix found, they never accounted for the materials. The left reframed this war and the American public is still buying it.
The entire controversy goes to, as it always does, the MSM/Democrat’s ability to frame the debate. Are Chem/Bio weapons cosidered WMD’s...of course. But the MSM/Democrat’s stance is that Bush’s reference to “nuclear” capability was what they hung their hat on and decided to support the Iraq war. Now, even upon the rediscovery of Chem/Bio weapons they still won’t yield since Nuclear hasn’t been found. So, they heard the whole arguement but pinned their support only on the Nuclear aspect, ergo, no nulear...”we were lied to”. And, if they are sincere (which they’re not) shame on them for only hearing part of the debate. The truth is that they are insinsere and are using the lack of Nuclear weaponry found to explain their early support.
And how much space would a vial of superdisease take exactly? A lot of the stuff they used could very easily be hidden and moved.
I believe most of they time they knew when & where the next inspection was going to be. Of course, they won’t move anything, but follow the law and wait for the inspectors just like crooks at home follow the gun control laws./s
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