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Guffaws at McCain in Texas, a nudge for Duncan Hunter
Statesman ^ | 9/6/07 | Gardner Shelby

Posted on 09/06/2007 8:17:05 AM PDT by pissant

Thursday, September 06, 2007

U.S. Sen. John McCain of Arizona won just eight of 1,300 votes cast in a presidential straw poll of Texas Republicans the other day.

That wasn't a shock given that McCain has been hampered by poor fundraising and judged by critics as too bullish on the Iraq war and too soft on illegal immigration to gain traction.

Delegates hearing McCain's tally laughed aloud, underscoring how momentum and respect can slip in politics. To the gigglers, at least, McCain has become worse than a long shot; he's a joke.

There wasn't a lot of levity at the poll in Fort Worth, but there were frequent jabs at U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York, a Democratic front-runner. She was probably mentioned more than President Bush.

Delores Pell, an Arlington businesswoman, said, "This is the most important election in my lifetime. I don't really want to have at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. a Marxist." Pell said Clinton favors redistribution of wealth and socialized medicine.

Gov. Rick Perry was listed in the program with officeholders who journeyed from Austin to speak, but he appeared in a four-minute videotape, urging activists to deliver victories to make Democratic Rep. Nancy Pelosi's House speakership an asterisk in history.

In his swing at Clinton, he seemed to dismiss '08 vice presidential prospects for U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas.

"We may not have a Texan on the ballot," Perry said, "but we cannot have another Clinton in the White House."

U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter of California won the poll, easily besting former U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee and U.S. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, who had many supporters at the gathering but whose bring-the-troops-home message did not thrill the voters, who were delegates to past state or national GOP conventions.

Most candidates blew off the poll. But Hunter, a Vietnam veteran, stumped Texas leading into it and hammered his commitment to the Iraq war, his belief in fair trade and his advocacy for a fence on the Mexico border.

"I built that border fence in San Diego," Hunter said, referring to legislation he sponsored. "And I wrote the law that will take it across Arizona, New Mexico and Texas."

He said he would complete 850 miles of fence, including 400 miles in Texas, within six months of becoming president.

National polls show former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Thompson and McCain as the GOP's serious contenders.

Delegate Sue Richardson of Irving insisted that Hunter has campaign-changing oomph.

"He's right on all the issues: the social issues, the border, immigration, the war," she said.

I asked Hunter what he makes of Perry's doubting border walls. Perry has suggested that 40-foot walls hasten 42-foot ladders.

Perry should visit southern California, Hunter replied, to see how better fences prevent crossings.

"If you can climb the real border fence," he said, "we sign you up for the Olympics."


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To: airborne

Guess they’ll change their tune after Hunter wins the primary.


41 posted on 09/17/2007 2:51:11 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
lol.....it's SO easy to wind you up. All I have to say is Duncan is 2nd tier and has no chance and you charge out like a bull at a rodeo.

It is so funny.

Needless to say. The truth is still the truth.

Duncan is 2nd tier and has no chance.

:)

42 posted on 09/17/2007 2:54:06 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: pissant

It is easier jumping from bandwagon to bandwagon than it is to put in the hard work.

Oh, well. To each his own.


43 posted on 09/17/2007 2:56:15 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Pistolshot

Wound up? It’s the fredheads that constantly get their panties in a bunch, and spend a whole lotta time trying to dampen support for Hunter. I’m as relaxed as can be.


44 posted on 09/17/2007 3:02:26 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: airborne; WalterSkinner; Calpernia; WildcatClan; AuntB

Cmon now. Fred’s the best guy running. At least on the federalist ticket. How doe you like this dose of federalism he pushed through?

S.2638
Title: A bill to provide support for certain institutes and schools.
Sponsor: Sen Frist, William H. [TN] (introduced 10/15/1998) Cosponsors (5)
Latest Major Action: 10/15/1998 Held at the desk.

Here is the text of the legislation:

S.2638
To provide support for certain institutes and schools. (Considered and Passed by Senate)

October 15 (legislative day, OCTOBER 2), 1998

Mr. FRIST (for himself, Mr. DEWINE, Mr. KENNEDY, Mr. SMITH of Oregon, Mr. THOMPSON, and Mr. WYDEN) introduced the following bill; which was read twice, considered, read the third time, and passed

A BILL

To provide support for certain institutes and schools.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

TITLE I—OREGON INSTITUTE OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND CONSTITUTIONAL STUDIES
SEC. 101. DEFINITIONS.

In this title:

(1) ENDOWMENT FUND- The term `endowment fund’ means a fund established by Portland State University for the purpose of generating income for the support of the Institute.

(2) INSTITUTE- The term `Institute’ means the Oregon Institute of Public Service and Constitutional Studies established under this title.

(3) SECRETARY- The term `Secretary’ means the Secretary of Education.

SEC. 102. OREGON INSTITUTE OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND CONSTITUTIONAL STUDIES.

From the funds appropriated under section 106, the Secretary is authorized to award a grant to Portland State University at Portland, Oregon, for the establishment of an endowment fund to support the Oregon Institute of Public Service and Constitutional Studies at the Mark O. Hatfield School of Government at Portland State University.

SEC. 103. DUTIES.

In order to receive a grant under this title the Portland State University shall establish the Institute. The Institute shall have the following duties:

(1) To generate resources, improve teaching, enhance curriculum development, and further the knowledge and understanding of students of all ages about public service, the United States Government, and the Constitution of the United States of America.

(2) To increase the awareness of the importance of public service, to foster among the youth of the United States greater recognition of the role of public service in the development of the United States, and to promote public service as a career choice.

(3) To establish a Mark O. Hatfield Fellows program for students of government, public policy, public health, education, or law who have demonstrated a commitment to public service through volunteer activities, research projects, or employment.

(4) To create library and research facilities for the collection and compilation of research materials for use in carrying out programs of the Institute.

(5) To support the professional development of elected officials at all levels of government.

SEC. 104. ADMINISTRATION.

(a) LEADERSHIP COUNCIL-

(1) IN GENERAL- In order to receive a grant under this title Portland State University shall ensure that the Institute operates under the direction of a Leadership Council (in this title referred to as the `Leadership Council’) that—

`(A) consists of 15 individuals appointed by the President of Portland State University; and

`(B) is established in accordance with this section.

(2) APPOINTMENTS- Of the individuals appointed under paragraph (1)(A)—

(A) Portland State University, Willamette University, the Constitution Project, George Fox University, Warner Pacific University, and Oregon Health Sciences University shall each have a representative;

(B) at least 1 shall represent Mark O. Hatfield, his family, or a designee thereof;

(C) at least 1 shall have expertise in elementary and secondary school social sciences or governmental studies;

(D) at least 2 shall be representative of business or government and reside outside of Oregon;

(E) at least 1 shall be an elected official; and

(F) at least 3 shall be leaders in the private sector.

(3) EX-OFFICIO MEMBER- The Director of the Mark O. Hatfield School of Government at Portland State University shall serve as an ex-officio member of the Leadership Council.

(b) CHAIRPERSON-

(1) IN GENERAL- The President of Portland State University shall designate 1 of the individuals first appointed to the Leadership Council under subsection (a) as the Chairperson of the Leadership Council. The individual so designated shall serve as Chairperson for 1 year.

(2) REQUIREMENT- Upon the expiration of the term of the Chairperson of the individual designated as Chairperson under paragraph (1), or the term of the Chairperson elected under this paragraph, the members of the Leadership Council shall elect a Chairperson of the Leadership Council from among the members of the Leadership Council.

SEC. 105. ENDOWMENT FUND.

(a) MANAGEMENT- The endowment fund shall be managed in accordance with the standard endowment policies established by the Oregon University System.

(b) USE OF INTEREST AND INVESTMENT INCOME- Interest and other investment income earned (on or after the date of enactment of this subsection) from the endowment fund may be used to carry out the duties of the Institute under section 103.

(c) DISTRIBUTION OF INTEREST AND INVESTMENT INCOME- Funds realized from interest and other investment income earned (on or after the date of enactment of this subsection) shall be spent by Portland State University in collaboration with Willamette University, George Fox University, the Constitution Project, Warner Pacific University, Oregon Health Sciences University, and other appropriate educational institutions or community-based organizations. In expending such funds, the Leadership Council shall encourage programs to establish partnerships, to leverage private funds, and to match expenditures from the endowment fund.

SEC. 106. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.

There is authorized to be appropriated to carry out this title $3,000,000 for fiscal year 1999, and each subsequent fiscal year thereafter.

TITLE II—PAUL SIMON PUBLIC POLICY INSTITUTE
SEC. 201. DEFINITIONS.

In this title:

(1) ENDOWMENT FUND- The term `endowment fund’ means a fund established by the University for the purpose of generating income for the support of the Institute.

(2) ENDOWMENT FUND CORPUS- The term `endowment fund corpus’ means an amount equal to the grant or grants awarded under this title plus an amount equal to the matching funds required under section 202(d).

(3) ENDOWMENT FUND INCOME- The term `endowment fund income’ means an amount equal to the total value of the endowment fund minus the endowment fund corpus.

(4) INSTITUTE- The term `Institute’ means the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute described in section 202.

(5) SECRETARY- The term `Secretary’ means the Secretary of Education.

(6) UNIVERSITY- The term `University’ means Southern Illinois University at Carbondale, Illinois.

SEC. 202. PROGRAM AUTHORIZED.

(a) GRANTS- From the funds appropriated under section 206, the Secretary is authorized to award a grant to Southern Illinois University for the establishment of an endowment fund to support the Paul Simon Public Policy Institute. The Secretary may enter into agreements with the University and include in any agreement made pursuant to this title such provisions as are determined necessary by the Secretary to carry out this title.

(b) DUTIES- In order to receive a grant under this title, the University shall establish the Institute. The Institute, in addition to recognizing more than 40 years of public service to Illinois, to the Nation, and to the world, shall engage in research, analysis, debate, and policy recommendations affecting world hunger, mass media, foreign policy, education, and employment.

(c) DEPOSIT INTO ENDOWMENT FUND- The University shall deposit the proceeds of any grant received under this section into the endowment fund.

(d) MATCHING FUNDS REQUIREMENT- The University may receive a grant under this section only if the University has deposited in the endowment fund established under this title an amount equal to one-third of such grant and has provided adequate assurances to the Secretary that the University will administer the endowment fund in accordance with the requirements of this title. The source of the funds for the University match shall be derived from State, private foundation, corporate, or individual gifts or bequests, but may not include Federal funds or funds derived from any other federally supported fund.

(e) DURATION; CORPUS RULE- The period of any grant awarded under this section shall not exceed 20

years, and during such period the University shall not withdraw or expend any of the endowment fund corpus. Upon expiration of the grant period, the University may use the endowment fund corpus, plus any endowment fund income for any educational purpose of the University.
SEC. 203. INVESTMENTS.

(a) IN GENERAL- The University shall invest the endowment fund corpus and endowment fund income in those low-risk instruments and securities in which a regulated

insurance company may invest under the laws of the State of Illinois, such as federally insured bank savings accounts or comparable interest bearing accounts, certificates of deposit, money market funds, or obligations of the United States.

(b) JUDGMENT AND CARE- The University, in investing the endowment fund corpus and endowment fund income, shall exercise the judgment and care, under circumstances then prevailing, which a person of prudence, discretion, and intelligence would exercise in the management of the person’s own business affairs.

SEC. 204. WITHDRAWALS AND EXPENDITURES.

(a) IN GENERAL- The University may withdraw and expend the endowment fund income to defray any expenses necessary to the operation of the Institute, including expenses of operations and maintenance, administration, academic and support personnel, construction and renovation, community and student services programs, technical assistance, and research. No endowment fund income or endowment fund corpus may be used for any type of support of the executive officers of the University or for any commercial enterprise or endeavor. Except as provided in subsection (b), the University shall not, in the aggregate, withdraw or expend more than 50 percent of the total aggregate endowment fund income earned prior to the time of withdrawal or expenditure.

(b) SPECIAL RULE- The Secretary is authorized to permit the University to withdraw or expend more than 50 percent of the total aggregate endowment fund income whenever the University demonstrates such withdrawal or expenditure is necessary because of—

(1) a financial emergency, such as a pending insolvency or temporary liquidity problem;

(2) a life-threatening situation occasioned by a natural disaster or arson; or

(3) another unusual occurrence or exigent circumstance.

(c) REPAYMENT-

(1) INCOME- If the University withdraws or expends more than the endowment fund income authorized by this section, the University shall repay the Secretary an amount equal to one-third of the amount improperly expended (representing the Federal share thereof).

(2) CORPUS- Except as provided in section 202(e)—

(A) the University shall not withdraw or expend any endowment fund corpus; and

(B) if the University withdraws or expends any endowment fund corpus, the University shall repay the Secretary an amount equal to one-third of the amount withdrawn or expended (representing the Federal share thereof) plus any endowment fund income earned thereon.

SEC. 205. ENFORCEMENT.

(a) IN GENERAL- After notice and an opportunity for a hearing, the Secretary is authorized to terminate a grant and recover any grant funds awarded under this section if the University—

(1) withdraws or expends any endowment fund corpus, or any endowment fund income in excess of the amount authorized by section 204, except as provided in section 202(e);

(2) fails to invest the endowment fund corpus or endowment fund income in accordance with the investment requirements described in section 203; or

(3) fails to account properly to the Secretary, or the General Accounting Office if properly designated by the Secretary to conduct an audit of funds made available under this title, pursuant to such rules and regulations as may be proscribed by the Comptroller General of the United States, concerning investments and expenditures of the endowment fund corpus or endowment fund income.

(b) TERMINATION- If the Secretary terminates a grant under subsection (a), the University shall return to the Treasury of the United States an amount equal to the sum of the original grant or grants under this title, plus any endowment fund income earned thereon. The Secretary may direct the University to take such other appropriate measures to remedy any violation of this title and to protect the financial interest of the United States.

SEC. 206. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.

There is authorized to be appropriated to carry out this title $3,000,000 for fiscal year 1999, and each subsequent fiscal year thereafter. Funds appropriated under this section shall remain available until expended.

TITLE III—HOWARD BAKER SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT
SEC. 301. DEFINITIONS.

In this title:

(1) BOARD- The term `Board’ means the Board of Advisors established under section 304.

(2) ENDOWMENT FUND- The term `endowment fund’ means a fund established by the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, Tennessee, for the purpose of generating income for the support of the School.

(3) SCHOOL- The term `School’ means the Howard Baker School of Government established under this title.

(4) SECRETARY- The term `Secretary’ means the Secretary of Education.

(5) UNIVERSITY- The term `University’ means the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, Tennessee.

SEC. 302. HOWARD BAKER SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT.

From the funds authorized to be appropriated under section 306, the Secretary is authorized to award a grant to the University for the establishment of an endowment fund to support the Howard Baker School of Government at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, Tennessee.

SEC. 303. DUTIES.

In order to receive a grant under this title, the University shall establish the School. The School shall have the following duties:

(1) To establish a professorship to improve teaching and research related to, enhance the curriculum of, and further the knowledge and understanding of, the study of democratic institutions, including aspects of regional planning, public administration, and public policy.

(2) To establish a lecture series to increase the knowledge and awareness of the major public issues of the day in order to enhance informed citizen participation in public affairs.

(3) To establish a fellowship program for students of government, planning, public administration, or public policy who have demonstrated a commitment and an interest in pursuing a career in public affairs.

(4) To provide appropriate library materials and appropriate research and instructional equipment for use in carrying out academic and public service programs, and to enhance the existing United States Presidential and public official manuscript collections.

(5) To support the professional development of elected officials at all levels of government.

SEC. 304. ADMINISTRATION.

(a) BOARD OF ADVISORS-

(1) IN GENERAL- The School shall operate with the advice and guidance of a Board of Advisors consisting of 13 individuals appointed by the Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs of the University.

(2) APPOINTMENTS- Of the individuals appointed under paragraph (1)—

(A) 5 shall represent the University;

(B) 2 shall represent Howard Baker, his family, or a designee thereof;

(C) 5 shall be representative of business or government; and

(D) 1 shall be the Governor of Tennessee, or the Governor’s designee.

(3) EX OFFICIO MEMBERS- The Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and the Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences at the University shall serve as an ex officio member of the Board.

(b) CHAIRPERSON-

(1) IN GENERAL- The Chancellor, with the concurrence of the Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs, of the University shall designate 1 of the individuals first appointed to the Board under subsection (a) as the Chairperson of the Board. The individual so designated shall serve as Chairperson for 1 year.

(2) REQUIREMENTS- Upon the expiration of the term of the Chairperson of the individual designated as Chairperson under paragraph (1) or the term of the Chairperson elected under this paragraph, the members of the Board shall elect a Chairperson of the Board from among the members of the Board.

SEC. 305. ENDOWMENT FUND.

(a) MANAGEMENT- The endowment fund shall be managed in accordance with the standard endowment policies established by the University of Tennessee System.

(b) USE OF INTEREST AND INVESTMENT INCOME- Interest and other investment income earned (on or after the date of enactment of this subsection) from the endowment fund may be used to carry out the duties of the School under section 303.

(c) DISTRIBUTION OF INTEREST AND INVESTMENT INCOME- Funds realized from interest and other investment income earned (on or after the date of enactment of this subsection) shall be available for expenditure by the University for purposes consistent with section 303, as recommended by the Board. The Board shall encourage programs to establish partnerships, to leverage private funds, and to match expenditures from the endowment fund.

SEC. 306. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.

There is authorized to be appropriated to carry out this title $10,000,000 for fiscal year 2000, and each subsequent fiscal year thereafter.

TITLE IV—JOHN GLENN INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC SERVICE AND PUBLIC POLICY
SEC. 401. DEFINITIONS.

In this title:

(1) ENDOWMENT FUND- The term `endowment fund’ means a fund established by the University for the purpose of generating income for the support of the Institute.

(2) ENDOWMENT FUND CORPUS- The term `endowment fund corpus’ means an amount equal to the grant or grants awarded under this title plus an amount equal to the matching funds required under section 402(d).

(3) ENDOWMENT FUND INCOME- The term `endowment fund income’ means an amount equal to the total value of the endowment fund minus the endowment fund corpus.

(4) INSTITUTE- The term `Institute’ means the John Glenn Institute for Public Service and Public Policy described in section 402.

(5) SECRETARY- The term `Secretary’ means the Secretary of Education.

(6) UNIVERSITY- The term `University’ means the Ohio State University at Columbus, Ohio.


45 posted on 09/17/2007 3:07:54 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Curious..... How did you come to list Chris Elliot as the author of the article when in fact if was written by W. Garner Shelby? Also is what you posted an excerpt or the complete article?


46 posted on 09/17/2007 3:22:02 PM PDT by deport (>>>--Keep your powder dry--<<< [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: deport

Pissantgate? The Dan Rather of FR?


47 posted on 09/17/2007 3:24:04 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: pissant
Mr. FRIST (for himself, Mr. DEWINE, Mr. KENNEDY, Mr. SMITH of Oregon, Mr. THOMPSON, and Mr. WYDEN) i

Now there's a bunch of 'conservatives' to line yourself up with! LOL

48 posted on 09/17/2007 3:25:50 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: deport

Go look at the link. It would be easy to see why I called him Chris Elliott.


49 posted on 09/17/2007 3:27:59 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: AuntB

Well, as you see, there’s not much conservatism in the bill, unless one cherishes the teachings of Howie Baker and Paul Simon.


50 posted on 09/17/2007 3:29:03 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
Yep looks like Chris Elliot to me also...... Guess I was wrong...... Was it an excerpt?

COMMENTARY: W. GARDNER SELBY

Guffaws at McCain in Texas, a nudge for Duncan Hunter

Republican straw poll stirred activists favoring border fence.


AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF


51 posted on 09/17/2007 3:37:32 PM PDT by deport (>>>--Keep your powder dry--<<< [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: pissant

Live Stream


52 posted on 09/17/2007 3:40:29 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: deport

Look again. You see someone’s picture prominently displayed? Thought so.


53 posted on 09/17/2007 3:43:39 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Admin Moderator

Can you please change the author I listed from Chris Elliot to Gardner Shelby. I thought the pic of the guy embedded in the article was the author. It is not.


54 posted on 09/17/2007 3:46:25 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: WalterSkinner

cool. Thanks


55 posted on 09/17/2007 3:47:32 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thank you!


56 posted on 09/17/2007 3:49:36 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant; Calpernia; Tennessee Nana; All

Do you know if anyone is doing a thread on the ValuesVoterDebate tonight?

Here’s some links. I’m going to miss it it looks like.

ValuesVoterDebate.com LIVE GOP Debate 7:30 Eastern Monday 9/17

http://valuesvoterdebate.com/livestream.cfm?host_id=f2a


57 posted on 09/17/2007 4:00:47 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB; WalterSkinner

I don’t know of anyone doing it


58 posted on 09/17/2007 4:02:18 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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