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Terrorist Threat Greater Than Before 9-11, Says Expert
Cybercast News Service ^ | 09/05/07 | Monisha Bonsal

Posted on 09/05/2007 11:56:17 AM PDT by Froufrou

In a new report released Wednesday afternoon, a security expert said jihadist terrorism currently poses a larger threat than it did before 9/11.

"Measured by the number of terrorist incidents, the jihadist threat is more significant now than it was prior to September 11, 2001," said Bernard Finel, a senior fellow with the liberal-leaning American Security Project. "It is, most notably, significantly worse even than in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks when the American response focused on al Qaeda's infrastructure in Afghanistan."

He called the jihadist terrorists a "vibrant and dynamic movement that has a great deal of strength even to this day. There are more attacks, so certainly they are more effective or more violent."

"In short, the war in Iraq has not noticeably reduced the numbers of jihadists outside of Iraq; rather it has created many more fighters to join the movement," he said. "This finding fundamentally undermines the Bush administration's claim that we are 'fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here.'

"It's been a growing threat for the last couple of decades. The trends were already bad going into the late '90s, and I think we just haven't taken sufficient steps to overturn and to change the trend lines since 9/11," Finel told Cybercast News Service.

Finel also argued that the United States should not focus on Iraq as the central front in the war on terror. The Bush administration's action to reduce state-sponsored terror and gain international cooperation in that effort has worked well, he said.

However, there is a "new kind of threat," one not "based around states," Finel said. "It's really a threat based around an ideology, a movement, and transnational groups. Until we take steps to deal with that kind of a challenge, we're always going to be behind the eight ball."

Finel noted that, instead, U.S. foreign policy should focus on "changing hearts and minds" in the Muslim world.

"On one hand we want people to reject terrorism in the abstract, on the other hand there are a series of beliefs which tend to justify the jihadist movement, just like terrorism -most notably that the United States is supporting these oppressive regimes in the region and that the United States is sort of this aggressive power which is out to attack and harm Islam," he said.

"That's not what American foreign policy is all about," said Finel, "but nonetheless it's a belief that has a lot of credibility in the Muslim world."

But President George W. Bush has often contended that Iraq is central to the war on terror. "The fight in Iraq has a direct impact on the safety of Americans here at home," Bush said in a speech last week.

"We have seen what violent extremists will do when American forces are actively engaged in Iraq, and we can envision what they would do if they were emboldened by American forces in retreat," he said.

"For all those who ask whether the fight in Iraq is worth it, imagine an Iraq where militia groups backed by Iran control large parts of the country, and al Qaeda has established sanctuaries to safely plot future attacks on targets all over the world, including the U.S. Homeland," said Bush, "and they could use billions of dollars in oil revenues to buy weapons and pursue their deadly ambitions."

He added that the most "important and immediate way" to counter terrorist groups is to "win the fight in Iraq."

A victory by "violent extremists" in the Middle East and the region there "could imperil the world," Bush added.

"This administration has really prioritized the issue of international cooperation and ... winning the Iraq War as the central front in the war on terror," said Finel. "They have done some things which are contributory to success in the war on terror. But, that said, it's a question of priorities and what trade-off you're willing to accept.

"I just don't see how you puncture the movement with anything you do in Iraq," he said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
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To: Froufrou

21 posted on 09/05/2007 12:13:34 PM PDT by McBuff
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To: Froufrou
“Changing hearts and minds” is just a joke.

No, it isn't.

To do that, we’d first have to understand why we’re so hated.

We are hated by jihadists for existing as a prosperous and strong non-Muslim society.

22 posted on 09/05/2007 12:14:24 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: RightWhale; wideawake

“...get people to more or less live and let live anyway and we will all get rich.”

Works for me, but how do you factor in their horrendous greed?


23 posted on 09/05/2007 12:15:44 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
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"A greater terrorist threat is due to global warming. Just pull my finger and I'll tell you how."

24 posted on 09/05/2007 12:16:04 PM PDT by teacherwoes ("It is vain to expect a well-balanced government without a well-balanced society" -Gideon Welles)
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To: RightWhale

Hitler hated us. So did Stalin.

Being liked isn’t everything.


25 posted on 09/05/2007 12:16:46 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Brilliant
If this is true we are in for it. We had no idea about 9/11. Now we have a liberal saying its worse now.

Got to get out and under my old school desk.

26 posted on 09/05/2007 12:17:20 PM PDT by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: McBuff; wideawake

They probably haven’t thought about the very real possibility that we won’t bow to Islam.


27 posted on 09/05/2007 12:19:24 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: RightWhale
There is no chance of "winning hearts and minds" with the hardcore jihadis. Their hearts and minds have been brainwashed into martyrdom at any cost.

All that we can give them is a ticket to Allah. They want to be martyrs, fine. Just at a time and place of our choosing.

28 posted on 09/05/2007 12:20:00 PM PDT by Sender (There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face. -Ben Williams)
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To: teacherwoes

“Pfffft...” :p


29 posted on 09/05/2007 12:20:21 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

“...jihadist terrorism currently poses a larger threat than it did before 9/11.”

True statement because:

1. The American people are lulled back into the sleep from which they were awakened on 9/11.
2. Since the borders remain open, more jihadists have entered the US since 9/11.
3. Our politicians continue to maintain that Islam is a ROP which is only an indication of their utter ignorance about and/or fear for Islam.
4. The possibility of a complete takeover by the dems at the next election only makes the prospect of an Al-Qaeda attack more plausible.


30 posted on 09/05/2007 12:21:18 PM PDT by 353FMG (Government is the opiate of the people.)
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To: Maceman
As Sun Tzu put it: "If your enemy is angry, irritate him."

Precisely.

I think shaking the tree to see who falls out is just what we are doing and should be doing. If people are so close to jumping on the Jihad bandwagon... well, I say have 'em go ahead. I don't want the "nearly jihad" guys out in the world either.

Send in the dogs, flush 'em into the air and fire at will.

31 posted on 09/05/2007 12:22:18 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Sender; RightWhale; wideawake; crazyshrink

I agree with Sender. Many are taught to hate when just young children, using even Disney cartoons.

I think they may lose some ability to decide otherwise based on the constant yammering to martyr themselves.


32 posted on 09/05/2007 12:24:28 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
Anyone also have the feeling something very very awful is about to happen?

I’m normally a very optimistic person, but there is something wicked in the air. God I pray I’m wrong.

33 posted on 09/05/2007 12:26:29 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: BurbankKarl

“a senior fellow with the liberal-leaning American Security Project.”

***

That’s all I needed to know.


34 posted on 09/05/2007 12:26:51 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Froufrou

“Measured by the number of terrorist incidents, the jihadist threat is more significant now than it was prior to September 11, 2001,” said Bernard Finel, a senior fellow with the liberal-leaning American Security Project.
*****

“The angle of the dangle depends entirely upon the heat of the meat,” said Ben Dover, a senior fellow with the progessive Airport Stalls Pleasure Project.


35 posted on 09/05/2007 12:27:02 PM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Froufrou

it would be a lot worse if we weren’t drawing most of them to Irazq.


36 posted on 09/05/2007 12:27:41 PM PDT by balch3
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To: BurbankKarl

“Who is Bernard Final?”

And did he just give us a final warning?


37 posted on 09/05/2007 12:28:03 PM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Froufrou

I disagree with this guy’s conclusions. Before 911, the US had it’s collective head stuck in the sand, mainly due to how the Clinton’s handled terrorist attacks in the 90’s. After 911, everything changed. We are in a much better defensive posture now due to the lesson of 911 and our interventions in Afghanistan and Iraq.


38 posted on 09/05/2007 12:28:43 PM PDT by khnyny (Hillary has given Bill a new title: Chief Flying Monkey)
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To: Froufrou
""I just don't see how you puncture the movement with anything you do in Iraq," he said."

Yet leaving Iraq to Iran and/or Al Quida will make things better????

Typical naive and ignorant liberal living in an ideological world of his own making.....in short, just another DUmmy....
39 posted on 09/05/2007 12:31:36 PM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: NavyCanDo

I’ve got the same feeling, and I don’t normally have those occurances. I can barely describe it, a deep, almost unconscious sense that something is very wrong.


40 posted on 09/05/2007 12:47:01 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand
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