Posted on 09/05/2007 11:17:42 AM PDT by Hurricane Bruiser
ANNAPOLIS— After eleven days of presidential straw poll ballots cast at the Maryland Republican Party’s State Fair booth, Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) was announced last night as the winner.
The Maryland Republican Party’s first-ever presidential straw poll at the State Fair resulted in nearly 1,000 Marylanders casting a vote for their favorite Republican candidate for president.
(Excerpt) Read more at mdgop.org ...
Trust me, Maryland isn’t full of old-school Democrats. I live there, and it’s moonbat city. On the east, anyway. The west isn’t so bad.
As for the relevance to RP's opposition to the Iraq war, the Constitution was not yet written/ratified when the Revolutionary War was fought and the Civil War was not a foreign adventure.
You didn't reply to my question about the second paragraph which dealt with the Civil War, a subject you said hijacked this thread. If it hijacked the thread, then why put in your two cents?
Regarding you second paragraph about RP's opposition to the Iraq war, to which of my posts were you responding?
Sure he is, which is why he didn't complain when drafted while Vietnam was raging. Oh and he wasn't out there protesting against it either.
Which is why he served in the Air Force, and later served 3 years in the Air National Guard and became a captain.
Which is why he has always supported Reagan's military budgets and weapons systems.
Which is why he voted to go into Afghanistan.
Which is why he wanted a real declaration of war going into Iraq. If Paul's antiwar, then Cindy Sheehan is a four-star general.
Paul is holding the conservative base. There is not a liberal bone in his body. Conservatives who remember what conservatism is support him. And he has a coalition of libertarians, Reagan Democrats, folks who never participated in politics before, and traditional liberals supporting him as well.
An anti-war candidate will not do that.
Not everyone supports Iraq, dirtboy. Get out of the FR bubble sometime. Real folks disagree with what's going on. No, not the usual moonbats who are trying to hijack Paul's campaign. Real ordinary folks living in Anytown, USA.
You better becareful before a Paulite petitions Congress for Letters of Reprisal against you.
Uh, but Reagan's military budgets and weapons systems were to support an existing infrastructure existing overseas, as elsewhere.. I thought Ron Paul was against American Imperialism? If so, how could he be for a budget that perpetrated such Constitutionally improper appropriations?
Yep, they laughed their ass off when Paul came in 3rd in TX. Despite the fact that the poll was only open to past convention delegates, Paul still came in a strong 3rd.
Now we're back to the spin that straw polls are "meaningless" if Paul wins them.
Seriously though, if that's all you got on Paul is spinning his earmarks on shrimp then that simply means you don't have a case against him. Even if it were true BFD. Overall, he supports limiting the government that won't make earmarks necessary in the first place.
“No, the Republican party is now driven by one thing and one thing only. A police action that, like other unclassified ‘wars’, appears to have no end in sight. And the way they talk some of them don’t want it to end either.”
Like the religion of Islam has nothing to do with what’s going on.. duh.
yea, one of the things that impressed me the most was that as a doc he never accepted medicare and medicaid (socialized government programs) and didn’t take out any federal loans for himself or his children to pay for his and their medical school, has refused his congressional pension, and returns ‘office money’ to the gov every year. These decisions has to have cost him 10s of thousaands of dollars, at least, yet they are very principled. Just imagine if everyone did that...
Unfortunately some of the rhetoric against Paul has reached DU levels. Now it's true that some of Paul supporters have done the same in defense. I know I participated in it but most of Paul posts have been generally supportive of Paul and weeding out the lies and spin against him.
I just find it ironic that the presidential candidate who supports the Constitution the most is being denigrated on the very website dedicated to defending it.
But, you were complaining about my appropriating a thread. Yet you insinuated a 'general comment' about that incursion?
How dare you insinuate on an incursion?
The sub-thread in question dealt merely with the question of the American Civil War. It had nothing to do with Iraq, whether Iraq's a Civil War, Revolutionary War, drug war, whatever. Yet you choose to insinuate this idea? Shame on you. You defile our sub-thread.
I'm not saying RP won it or could have won it. But he might have pulled out a second since The Fred only beat him narrowly. It'll be interesting how many legit TX Republicans got turned away and whether any supporters of other candidates got excluded by party thugs.YouTube - Tyranny at the Texas Straw Poll Ron Paul
“Ron Paul talks the talk. Coburn walks the walk. No comparision between the two men whatsoever.”
see post 292. I have to disagree with Paul’s earnmark positions, but there is plenty else he is principled on, even more so than coburn on some things...
In all honesty, I've been on most Ron Paul threads here on FR. I've never, to my recollection, seen the animosity you've described. And, in all honesty, I'd bet that if you were to show me links, I'd be able to show you comparison links that display the same animosity from you folks.
It's a two-way street. What I'm calling for is a moratorium. You say you have a candidate who'll satisfy conservative values, fine. Prove it! Meanwhile I'll ask my fellow conservatives to hold obnoxious comment. But you'll have to redefine yourselves! You're NOT conservatives; you're libertarians. Identify, be honest, and we just might respond. Otherwise, forget it.
PERIOD!
again from wikipedia:
The distribution of virtually all goods and services involves Interstate Highways at some point. Residents of American cities commonly use urban Interstates to travel to their places of work. The vast majority of long-distance travel, whether for vacation or business, uses the national road network;[1] of these trips, about one-third (by the total number of miles driven in the country in 2003) utilize the Interstate system.[2]
My comment: Just because Alaska does not connect directly by road to the lower 48, doesn’t mean that it shouldn’t get its share of highway funding.
I lived in British Columbia for about 20 years, a place with a lot of similar land mass as coastal Alaska; ie, very few roads, lots of transportation done by air or sea. The BC Ferries are part of the Canadian Highway system, and are a larger fleet than the Canadian Navy. We have bridges connecting Vancouver to our airport, and I imagine that Ketchikan would like to have the same connection to their airport.
Unfortunately some of the rhetoric FOR Paul has reached DU levels. It cuts both ways. Don't ever try to categorize one side against the other.
I know I participated in it but most of Paul posts have been generally supportive of Paul and weeding out the lies and spin against him.
Uh, huh. Like calling me 'tyrannical', and an acquaintance (and patriot) of mine a 'traitor'. That don't cut it!
You find it more anti-Paul? I find that ludicrous. If we'd just both identify ourselves truthfully, and approach politics from there, we'd both be far ahead. But the Paul supporters won't do that. Nor will they admit there are those on the left using their candidate for their own political gains. Nor will they admit they spam and cram polls, straw and otherwise, to pervert their candidate's popularity.
Yes, there is a lot to answer for, but I submit it has to do with more on their part than ours. If you want truth and magnanimity, that's where you have to start.
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