Posted on 09/05/2007 11:17:42 AM PDT by Hurricane Bruiser
ANNAPOLIS— After eleven days of presidential straw poll ballots cast at the Maryland Republican Party’s State Fair booth, Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) was announced last night as the winner.
The Maryland Republican Party’s first-ever presidential straw poll at the State Fair resulted in nearly 1,000 Marylanders casting a vote for their favorite Republican candidate for president.
(Excerpt) Read more at mdgop.org ...
Didn’t hold slaves? MD was very much a slave state. As were a couple “yankee” states that didn’t have to be held under the gun.
Horsecrap. Slavery was the core issue behind sessesion. Anyone who claims otherwise is in abject denial.
The Civil War was inevitable because a country forged on the notion that all men were created equal allowed some to remain slaves upon winning independence. And the South's loss was inevitable because their self-determination was driven by wishing to deny such to a large segment of their own population.
So if a group in his district wants earmarks, then it's OK. But it's also OK to campaign on the idea he's against earmarks. Makes sense to me. NOT!
Please, if this is what you really believe, (and especially if this is what Ron Paul really believes...and intends to campaign on) rethink it.
Once again, I present Tom Coburn.
Someone who refuses to pass along earmark requests.
In other words, a man who sticks to his principles, unlike Ron Paul.
Last I checked, most of those folks don't make the Constitutionalist claims that Ron Paul does. So they are knaves. But Paul is a hypocrite.
No son, the South lost becasue we could not make a cannon worth a sh*t...
Damn yankee steele...
“Do you have a clue who Ron Paul is? You might want to check on his long standing positions. For example, he is not anti-war, he simply wants Congress to declare war instead of us becoming mired in multiple police actions. “
So Paul would have been opposed to the 1st and 2nd Barbary Wars? disgraceful.
It's funny how slave labor back home impairs the ol' war effort. A lot of Nazi artillery shells failed to explode for some reason. Might have to do with the conscripted labor back in the factories.
If they had won, they wouldn’t of rejoined - so your definition doesn’t fit. They weren’t part of the same country any longer.
It does fit because Lincoln made it fit. It was Lincoln who fought the Civil War to preserve the Union. Sure, if the Union had allowed the Southern States to secede, then there would never have been a war. But there WAS a war, and it was a CIVIL WAR, because the Union (because of Lincoln) refused to allow secession to succeed. The Union fought the war to preserve the Union. It WAS a Civil War.
Against, hell he wants to reenact it...
So it was OK for all the Founders to have it, but not some 3 gen’s later?
It’s not “!$!@#$”. I don’t care if it was the “core” or not. You could say “taxes” on everything was the core of the RevWar. So what. The point was they all wanted things to be a certain way and were trying to get their ways. All tried (in the end; not all the Rev people at 1st when it started) to break away to do so. Put in the details all you want, but the bottom line is still “self-determination”, whether you like what they wanted to do or not.
Uh, yeah - times change. A nation forged by a Declaration that all men are created equal will have problems standing when it subsequently decides that some are less than equal and can be held as slaves.
You may be getting into an area of denial on FR that runs pretty deep. Be prepared. I've been down this road before and it's not very pleasant. BTW, I agree with you.
I've seen that as well. I think it can fairly be said that the Union initially did not take up the war to end slavery, but to preserve the Union. But maintaining slavery is what drove the Southern states to leave the Union.
“Do the Paulistinians remind anyone else of King Jong Il’s cult of personality?”
The same can be said for supporters of any candidate....
Unfortunately, the DOI has nothing to do with governing. It’s just a formal declaration to the government that they think they were doing things wrong.
I would think you would be like 1 of the libs who hates the Founders at least partly because they “failed” to stop slavery, period, and indeed had slaves.
Congrats that you have the open-mindedness to see they weren’t bad just because they allowed slavery to go on (albeit wisely tried gradually stopping it - too gradually - with a stop in trade).
Damn Yankees!
Cynthia Anne, where is mah rifle?
Have the boy fetch it for me please mam’
;-)
Who’s denying it was a big part?
The question was if the CW was an example of “self-determination”.
It doesn’t matter if you think what the rebels did was nice or not; it was STILL self-determination exactly because they wanted things a certain way and tried to start anew to do so.
“who saw the wisdom of leaving Beirut and getting out of Middle Eastern political affairs.”
Well Bin Laden and Iran definately saw the wisdom of our leaving those places.
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