How A Dark-Horse Can Win The Nomination (strategery for 2nd tier, RP)

TheWandererPress.com (Catholic newspaper), via Buchanan.org & TomRoeser.com ^ | 8/29/07 | Tom Roeser

[George W. Bush]

Some good advice from an old GOP campaigner that applies not only to Ron Paul but to the rest of the second-tier candidates as well. The writer is well-versed on old-time campaigns and writes at great length on issues about politics back in the Seventies and Eighties when he was very active politically.

Duncan and Tanc and Huckabee supporters should take notes.

This is posted as a thread about strategery, not about Ron Paul specifically. Copy/paste the article to your Notepad and search/replace "Paul" and "Ron Paul" with your favorite candidate. It's good advice for all of the lesser known candidates.

[George W. Bush]

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Strategery ping.

[live+let_live]

I don’t know much about Ron Paul but I found this interesting:

I spend Labor Day Weekend driving through Tennessee, Kentucky and Illinois. I saw only 2 political bumper stickers. Both were Ron Paul for President.

[Badeye]

Its a fantasy that won’t become real.

I do admire your tenacity.

[George W. Bush]

I do admire your tenacity.

It is an issues candidacy as much as electing RP as president.

My opposition to open-borders, the U.N., unfettered globalism, Wilsonian nation-building, championing the First and Second and small-government and states' rights, are pretty unwavering.

I was committed to those positions long ago. I remain committed to them. Regardless of how Ron Paul does in the primaries, I will remain committed to them. So I am tenacious about those issues and I support Ron Paul inasmuch as he champions those causes.

Ron Paul supporters are more ideological about this than other GOP supporters. Personally, I'd welcome the opportunity to choose from more candidates who echo exactly those same themes consistently.

[mnehring]

Have you seen this?

http://afk.townhall.com/g/62e31d0c-9338-4b8d-8638-7042ac083cc0

Some of Paul’s campaign workers are quitting and telling an interesting story.

[CJ Wolf]

I’ve seen a bunch RP Stickers in VA and Maryland.

[mnehring]

Ron Paul supporters are more ideological about this than other GOP supporters.

[CJ Wolf]

That’s only been spam posted eleventeenthousand times.

[Badeye]

‘Ron Paul supporters are more ideological about this than other GOP supporters’

( chuckle)

thats one way to put it....

[cripplecreek]

The problem is getting moderates to vote for Ron Paul. Sure the partisans say they will vote for whoever is nominated but that’s a lot of bluster when it comes down to voting for someone other than their candidate.

Duncan Hunter is my candidate but I’m more likely to vote for RP than anyone in the so called “top tier”. I vehemently disagree with Paul on the war but also realize that a withdrawal wouldn’t happen overnight and that he would be following military recommendations.

Personally I’ve been rough on RP in the past but feel that the 2nd tier has far better candidates and we shouldn’t fight among ourselves.

[mnehring]

That’s only been spam posted eleventeenthousand times.

Really? I've only seen it posted once, but I am curious if there is any truth to it.. Paul's camp sure is quick to bash Eric in the blogs after he wrote this tell-all (and this one exposing Paul's real stand on the issues: http://afk.townhall.com/g/e22e444a-fe6b-4709-86fa-1a18354dc328 )

[mnehring]

Making the second link live:

http://afk.townhall.com/g/e22e444a-fe6b-4709-86fa-1a18354dc328

[Chi-townChief]

Were they left over from ‘88?

[Chi-townChief]

I’d probably vote for him again if it came down to that although his adoption of the language of the left makes it pretty difficult and a third party would look all the more attractive.

[piytar]

Some info. on Ron Paul and his followers:

http://ronrosenbaum.pajamasmedia.com/2007/07/14/ron_paul_may_not_be_an_anti_se.php

http://www.jewcy.com/daily_shvitz/ron_pauls_a_kook_possibly_a_racist_but_not_an_anti_semite

http://www.latestpolitics.com/blog/2007/05/ron-paul-and-anti-semitism.html

Money quote from the last one:

Why is this anti-Semitic? Because any criticism of Israel or America’s alliance with Israel is anti-Semitic? Hardly. It’s an anti-Semitic statement because it plays directly into classic anti-Semitic tropes, as regards Jews controlling the world and controlling nations through a Jewish conspiracy. Even in his response to Mr. Weigel, Mr. Paul seems to be reiterating this notion of AIPAC controlling Congress, saying, “the assumption is that AIPAC is in control of things, and they control the votes, and they get everybody to vote against anything that would diminish the war.”

Just Say No to Ron Paul.

(Not a Ruddy fan, either. Could stomach just about any of the rest, although I’m hoping Fred gets the nod.)

[TomGuy]

It could prove interesting.

The Pubbies could enter their Convention without a clear winner this time. It would show significant crevices in the GOP — bigbusiness vs conservative.

After the onslaught and major defeats the RNC and Republican leadership has taken on a few issues, it would be interesting to see who would emerge from a brokered convention to face, in all probability, Hillary Clinton as the Dem nominee.

[t_skoz]

Note to GOP: Want to win more elections? Give us more conservatives to believe in. Want people to be so excited about a candidate they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars of their own money, maybe even close to a million, making their own campaign materials and working day and night for their guy? Give us more conservatives.

If you want to reverse the results of 2006 and capitalize on the excitement of the Paul campaign...

RUN CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES!

[mnehring]

Bump, thanks Piytar. I’ll add this to my Ron Paul is a Fraud file.

[t_skoz]

That guy is a FORMER and very much disgruntled employee of Rep. Ron Paul. He is coming out now because he wants to challenge Dr. Paul for his Congressional seat. He’s not a current campaign worker. Basically, this story is bunk.