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Mark Steyn: There were two creeps in the men's room
http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/craig-stall-bathroom-1836749-karsnia-room ^ | Mark Steyn

Posted on 09/01/2007 9:03:41 PM PDT by ventanax5

The catchphrase of America's famous cowboy humorist Will Rogers was "Never met a man I didn't like." Judging from the activities at the men's room of the Will Rogers Memorial Park in Beverly Hills, many of the patrons of said facility evidently feel the same way. George Michael, the stubbly boy rocker of the Eighties, was arrested therein for attempting to play footsie with an undercover cop. "Guilty feet have got no rhythm," as George famously observed on his hit song "Careless Whisper." After pleading no contest, he subsequently made a rock video mocking the arresting officer, with George prancing around in police uniform twirling his night stick

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To: ventanax5
Thus, Monica Lewinsky was a "grown woman" free to make her own decisions on the carpet of the Oval Office.

I can't tell you what I'd like to do with Clinton's finger he pointed at me on national t.v.

His talking appendage sure stands by her "man"/sarcasm.

41 posted on 09/02/2007 5:26:21 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: ventanax5

Too much criticism on the police man doing his job. he should be held in high regard for removing this creep of a “Senator” from the ranks of the PERVERTED.

Have these people no SHAME, I guess not.


42 posted on 09/02/2007 5:29:12 AM PDT by chatham
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To: Tall_Texan

Of course, your patch, your pegleg, and your three-cornered hat contributed to the screener’s suspicions.

Good thing you left your flintlock pistols at home.

< }B^)


43 posted on 09/02/2007 5:44:52 AM PDT by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: ventanax5

I have read nothing that suggests Larry Craig made any verbal proposition to the cop.
When cops run prostitution stings, a verbal commitment, instigated by the ‘john’ is needed to arrest.

I don’t understand exactly what law Craig broke?
What if his foot had touched a woman’s foot while seated in the waiting area? Would have that constituted a proposition?

Don’t get me wrong. I’ve observed several instances of public restrooms being used as meeting places for gays and it disgusts me, but this incident has me wondering what our ‘thought police’ society is coming to.

One other thing. How does one consummate a union in a restroom stall with any privacy? ( that’s rhetorical, no answers needed)


44 posted on 09/02/2007 6:00:13 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: AliVeritas; All

I listened to the tape and frankly, I don’t see what Craig did wrong. The cop’s story is suspect (saw left hand which was on the other side), he freaked out, played up the politician card (”people vote for you”) and arrested this guy based on a) their feet touching in a stall, and b) Craig putting his hand under the stall (which is suspect - Craig has a defense [picked up tissue paper] + the cop’s story is shaddy [left hand on right side of stall?]). This thing reaks. I understand, though I don’t know it, that this Craig has a history of being accused of being gay, but this incident doesn’t pass the smell test. I’m not convinced Craig was stupid enough to try and have homosexual relations in a public bathroom in an airport. I think he’d do that sort of thing in a more private setting. I’m not convinced at all based on this tape.

http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=359278


45 posted on 09/02/2007 7:13:56 AM PDT by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: ventanax5

I wondered what it would take to garner a defense of homo pervs soliciting sex in men’s rooms. Should have know it would be a Republican getting busted.


46 posted on 09/02/2007 7:17:41 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: nicmarlo; Czar

Yeah, interesting. The airports are good testing grounds to see how the masses can be controlled and how we can’t accidentally move our feet. I don’t know about this airport, but the stalls sure seem to be getting smaller and smaller at most airports. At my height, I can barely fit in a regular one with one small, carry-on. Heaven forbid I drop something or my “big” feet cross over...


47 posted on 09/02/2007 9:09:45 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen; Czar

I noticed that, too....and I’m little...can’t imagine how a bigger person fits in them too well.

Wonder if, in the future Animal Farm in which we will live, if those who cannot fit into “normal” sized seats, stalls, doorways, etc., if that’ll be grounds for removal to the camps. /sarc


48 posted on 09/02/2007 9:47:36 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; Czar

If the place is empty, I sometimes have to use the handicapped or diaper changing stall. Seriously between my back pain and my height, I can’t squeeze into a regular one. Plus after being crammed into a tiny airplane seat for hours, I’m almost crippled. I’ve only done that once or twice, but I’m sure “they’ll” arrest me one of these days, lol.

The only thing is - I’m height-weight proportionate. With the world getting fatter, do you think they’ll have room in the farm for all of them? Isn’t something like half the country considered obese now?


49 posted on 09/02/2007 9:53:10 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

He has a point. As usual. Though I don’t share his casual attitude towards immorality/hypocrisy.


50 posted on 09/02/2007 9:55:58 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Borax Queen; Czar

allegedly....I wonder what’ll happen to them. They will likely have to wear some kind of probationary “star” and the citizens will call a tip number if these people are seen eating at places where there are unhealthy foods for overweight people...like McD’s. They’re eating their “unfair share”...and have “no right” to be the weight they choose....blah blah blah.

egads...can you imagine that kind of society???


51 posted on 09/02/2007 9:56:06 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; Borax Queen; B4Ranch
"egads...can you imagine that kind of society???"

Yes--exactly the kind of mindset possessed by the environmental wackos.

52 posted on 09/02/2007 11:36:17 AM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: nicmarlo
OTOH...are we all to be concerned about how we tap our feet, or where we place our bags? 1984....Big Brother anyone????

No doubt. If you leave your bag outside the stall either HLS will take out to a field and blow it up or some sleazeball will steal it.

53 posted on 09/02/2007 12:57:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Czar; Borax Queen; B4Ranch

silly me...I forgot!


54 posted on 09/02/2007 1:00:21 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: TigersEye

Absolutely. And, you can’t ask anyone at the airports to watch your bags....that may mean you’re going to blow up something...rather than the fact that lugging clumsy carry-ons into a small stall....etc.


55 posted on 09/02/2007 1:01:41 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Grizzled Bear
If I got to take a leak I go do what I need to do as quickly as possible. Any thing beyond that I wait until I get home.

Glad you made this comment. I have had very much the same thoughts.

I believe that right at the beginning of this story there was something from Craig indicating that he frequented this restroom. I could be mistaken, but I interpreted this as an unnecessary concession referencing his typical travel pattern between Washington and Idaho.

I tried to be generous -- in my own mind -- thinking that a man like Craig is on the go a lot and can not live as close to his personal pot as I do. Still, it troubled me. I don't think of myself as especially regular, but it is extraordinarily rare that I visit a public restroom for anything requiring that I pull down my trousers. One of the perks of maleness.

Does frequenting a stall in a restroom with a reputation make you a pervert? Maybe not...but it ain't exactly a character reference either.

56 posted on 09/02/2007 1:10:16 PM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: nicmarlo
I’m trying to picture where you DO put your feet while sitting on the throne and the bag is in front of you. On top of the bag so you don’t excite any pervs or perv-cops??? But you still have the problem of having the bag in the stall which apparently excites perv-cops too.
57 posted on 09/02/2007 1:15:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: ventanax5
Here's an excellent point:

I've no doubt Sen. Craig went to that bathroom looking for sex. Listen to the tape of his encounter with Sgt. Karsnia and then imagine, as National Review's Jonah Goldberg suggested, how the conversation would go if Sens. McCain or Webb had been in that stall and were accused of brushing shoes with the flatfoot. Not being privy to the codes of the privy, it would take 'em 15 minutes even to figure out what Sarge was accusing 'em of and, when it became clear, the conversation would erupt in a blizzard of asterisks and, shortly thereafter, fists.

58 posted on 09/02/2007 1:18:39 PM PDT by Petronski (Cleveland Indians: Pennant-22)
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To: TigersEye

You got me. There’s no check-in lockers any longer at the airports (for obvious reasons); you’re not allowed to ask someone you don’t know to watch your baggage; the stalls don’t have shelving which would allow for storing of the back near you...it’s certainly not feasible to place it on your lap...there’s no toilet tanks....

If you place it to the side, there’s also the possibility that someone could steal it....


59 posted on 09/02/2007 1:21:32 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: bdog2995
WHY THE HELL ARE YOU SHOUTING?
60 posted on 09/02/2007 1:23:07 PM PDT by Petronski (Cleveland Indians: Pennant-22)
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