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Senate Blocks Mandatory ID Implants in Employees
latimes.com ^ | 08/31/07 | Pat McGreevey

Posted on 08/31/2007 9:25:37 AM PDT by Froufrou

Tackling a dilemma right out of a science fiction novel, the state Senate passed legislation Thursday that would bar employers from requiring workers to have identification devices implanted under their skin.

State Sen. Joe Simitian (D-Palo Alto) proposed the measure after at least one company began marketing radio frequency identification devices for use in humans.

The devices, as small as a grain of rice, can be used by employers to identify workers. A scanner passing over a body part implanted with one can instantly identify the person.

"RFID is a minor miracle, with all sorts of good uses," Simitian said. "But we shouldn't condone forced 'tagging' of humans. It's the ultimate invasion of privacy."

Simitian said he fears that the devices could be compromised by persons with unauthorized scanners, facilitating identity theft and improper tracking and surveillance.

The bill has been approved by the state Assembly and now goes to the governor.

Nine senators opposed the measure, including Bob Margett (R-Arcadia), who said it is premature to legislate technology that has not yet proved to be a problem. "It sounded like it was a solution looking for a problem," Margett said. "It didn't seem like it was necessary."

One company, VeriChip, has been licensed by the Food and Drug Administration to sell implanted identification devices, and about 2,000 people have had them implanted, Simitian said. A representative of the firm did not return calls seeking comment Thursday.

CityWatcher.com, a Cincinnati video surveillance company, has required employees who work in its secure data center to have a microchip implanted in an arm.

Similar technology has been used for years to help identify lost pets.

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1 posted on 08/31/2007 9:25:37 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
Truthfully, I like this idea. I'd like to see the government do it. I'd like to see such identification mandatory for all workers and all real estate transactions.

Employers, landlords, and real estate agents who do not verify legal status of the client should face 5-figure fines.
People who tamper with such identification should face 6-figure fines.

2 posted on 08/31/2007 9:29:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agammemnon dead.)
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To: Froufrou
Nine senators opposed the measure, including Bob Margett (R-Arcadia), who said it is premature to legislate technology that has not yet proved to be a problem. "It sounded like it was a solution looking for a problem," Margett said. "It didn't seem like it was necessary."

I agree with the person who introduced this bill. If technology like this is available, it will eventually be misused. Why wait until then to do something about it?

Someone needs to push this at the Federal level, since that is where the real threat lies, IMO.

3 posted on 08/31/2007 9:31:14 AM PDT by Disambiguator (What's the temperature, Albert?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I’d like to see such identification mandatory for all workers”

Come and try to chip me. I dare ya.


4 posted on 08/31/2007 9:33:40 AM PDT by VRing (Happiness is a perfect sling bruise.)
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To: Froufrou

George Orwell was a clairvoyant.


5 posted on 08/31/2007 9:33:48 AM PDT by wastedyears (Alright, hold tight, I'm a highway staaaaaaaaaaaaarrr)
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To: Froufrou

Generally, I’m opposed to microchipping people, although I support it in very limited circumstances...like for elected officials.


6 posted on 08/31/2007 9:37:13 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Froufrou

Mark of the beast on the way...


7 posted on 08/31/2007 9:43:12 AM PDT by cjohnson1 (http://www.uncoveror.com/castro.htm)
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To: VRing

While I understand that there are many reasons why people would oppose this, I have to ask: How do you propose to identify illegal immigrants so that they can be denied jobs and housing within our borders?


8 posted on 08/31/2007 9:44:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agammemnon dead.)
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To: wastedyears

Orwell? How close does this sound the mark of the beast as described in the book of revelations?


9 posted on 08/31/2007 9:45:47 AM PDT by Carolina_Thor (It's always better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I'd like to see such identification mandatory for all workers and all real estate transactions.

Yes Sir, boss! I got yer "chip implant location" RIGHT HERE!


10 posted on 08/31/2007 9:47:22 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: ClearCase_guy
Truthfully, I like this idea. I'd like to see the government do it. I'd like to see such identification mandatory for all workers and all real estate transactions.

Have you never read the book of Revelation? I hope you're being sarcastic, because your statement is eerily like the prophecy.

11 posted on 08/31/2007 9:47:54 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: wastedyears
George Orwell was a clairvoyant.

Perhaps.

John the Revelator was a prophet.

12 posted on 08/31/2007 9:48:27 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: TChris
"And that no man might buy or sell, save [except] he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

No one is proposing the name or the number of the beast be applied to anyone. I think it would be good for you to have your own name applied to you. It's really quite different.

13 posted on 08/31/2007 9:50:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agammemnon dead.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
No one is proposing the name or the number of the beast be applied to anyone. I think it would be good for you to have your own name applied to you. It's really quite different.

*smile*

Yeah, we're not quite there yet, so why be concerned?

14 posted on 08/31/2007 9:53:43 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: wastedyears

So was John the Revelator!


15 posted on 08/31/2007 9:53:47 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: ClearCase_guy

>> How do you propose to identify illegal immigrants

By asking for “a document from List A and a document from List B” and REALLY VERIFYING THE DOCUMENTS.

Failure to ID illegals is not a technology inadequacy issue; it’s a lack of political WILL to correctly use the tools we already have at our disposal.


16 posted on 08/31/2007 9:54:32 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: Froufrou

Anyone who tries to implant such a device in me will, in turn, have a 150gr, copper-jacketed device implanted in them. Maybe even more than one.


17 posted on 08/31/2007 9:54:52 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: LIConFem; cjohnson1

Maybe we should implant illegals instead. Hmmmm....


18 posted on 08/31/2007 9:57:50 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
Semiconductors are full of toxic metals.
Only a moron would suggest this as a good idea.
19 posted on 08/31/2007 10:00:51 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: TChris
I mean no offense, but I think you are having an emotional, knee-jerk reaction to this. Of course you are free to disagree, but I’m not sure you are trying to understand what I’m saying.

Person A has a chip -- it says “I am John Doe social security xxx-xx-xxxx”
Person B has no chip -- [illegal immigrant]

Which of these people has the Name of the Beast engraved on them?
Which of these people has the Number of the Beast (666) engraved upon them?

You think this matches up with Revelations. I don’t think you understand Revelations. Revelations is about humans who give themselves to Satan, write his name or number on their bodies to show that they belong to Satan.

This is closer to going to the scene of an accident, seeing a headless body and saying, “That’s my cousin I recognize the tattoo on his arm.” The Tattoo is not the Mark of the Beast either. It’s a physical mark that can help identify someone.

20 posted on 08/31/2007 10:02:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agammemnon dead.)
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