Posted on 08/31/2007 9:16:22 AM PDT by Abathar
SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Authorities said they removed nearly 80,000 rounds of ammunition from the home of a South Bend man who warned that the world was going to end.
South Bend police and federal agents blocked off streets around Kevin Rieder's home for six hours Wednesday while they removed the ammunition.
Rieder, 38, was arrested Wednesday and charged with illegal possession of ammunition while subject to a restraining order, Assistant U.S. Attorney Donald Schmidt said.
The restraining order had been taken out by an ex-girlfriend, Schmidt said.
Rieder told employees at a gun shop where he bought 18,000 rounds that he believed the world was going to end, officials said.
He was in custody Friday morning, awaiting a Tuesday bail and detention hearing.
Call your local fire dept and ask them. You will more than likely find a restriction on how much powder you can have in a residential area without a permit from the fire dept and you’ll need a separate storage facility away from the house.
Check.
and if REALLY righteous, isolation and privacy.
Check.
You mean you are just now finding that out? Funny thing is that we have some that post on this site that if you have a RO against you (no conviction of a crime) that you should not have firearms, etc.
I don’t think they could tell the difference, even with the help of the video.
The ammo confiscation appears to come from an undefined Restraining Order banning him from “the purchase of ammunition”. I however, would believe that the headline dealing with ammunition was more likely to sell newspapers than “Man Violates Restraining Order by Making Retail Purchase”. Recognizing that bias and having looked at the source story (a real hatchet job against the man); I would tend to believe that the police may have acted rationally, but the story would have been quite different and would have lacked the panache.
So, clearly, size does matter. (Just couldn’t let it pass)
Don’t think that the Second Amendment is of any value until “the people” enforce their rights.
Check out your FFL application to purchase firearms. It includes indictment or filing of charges related to domestic violence or violent crimes. Technically, under Federal rules and most states laws, your right to possess firearms is suspended on the day you are charged and will not be reinstated until you are acquitted. Further, courts may place almost any restriction they choose in restraining orders. I have known some very inventive judges.
The last thing you want to do is call any kind of official and tell them you have x pounds of potential bomb making material in your house.
The world will eventually come to an end and 80,000 rounds, while a good start, will not be sufficient to deter that from happening.
> Nearly 80,000 Ammunition Rounds Seized From Home
> OK, fess up. Which Freeper is this?
Wow, sure beats me, I only own 5 bricks (2500) of 22 rounds and a couple of boxes of 12 gauge.
Unfortunately since 22 ammo is sold in bricks of 500 for a fairly cheap price, media and law enforcement types love to expound on every round in the box to gain the most sensationalism from it.
I tend to agree with Joe 6-pack.
People really need to think about what they’re doing before they store 80,000 rounds of ammo at the house...
...prepositioning it in multiple, off-site, secure caches is a better plan and offers a lot more flexibility.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1889432/posts?page=19#19
I'm not sure where you got your info, or maybe I'm misconstruing your statement, but, as I remember it (with an old man's memory), the 5th Circuit remanded it back to the district court BUT mentioned that the right to bear arms WAS an individual right. The district court let stand that Emerson HAD threatened his estranged wife with the firearm, and therefore was guilty under the Lautenberg Amendment.
Again, that is how I remember it. It was the first time in a very long time that ANY court had agreed with the individual right side of the Second Amendment. However, that was not their "ruling", it was only in their "briefs"(?).
I'm not even sure what that means except that they DID NOT rule on the unconstitutionality of the Lautengerg Amendment.
Ashcroft penned an official letter saying that the official stance of the Justice Dept. was that the Second Amendment protects an INDIVIDUAL right to keep and bear arms for the first time in 50 years. Please do not hate him. He is a good, God fearing man and a true Patriot.
Count it by the # of crates on the pallet. Blackbird.
Especially not the ATF!
Mostly a bunch of noise, like firecrackers, minimal flying stuff, maybe some brass fragments -if the cases were thin reloads-.
A veritable bargain! I really do need to get me one of these before the Democrats decree it as unlawful.
No, they are almost entirely related to demand by China. It started with steel about three years ago and has now reached almost all metals except aluminum. Apparently there is not much aluminum used in China, yet.
“The restraining order had been taken out by an ex-girlfriend, Schmidt said.”
It is a federal offense now to have a gun or ammunition if there is any type of restraining order, co contact order or order of protection against you. All someone has to do is go down to a judge and tell them they are afraid of you and the judge will grant one of these orders. Judges seem to sign off on these as a matter of course because if something bad happens after they refuse to sign off on one of these it will come back to bite them later. Most people don’t realize that they are committing a federal offense by having a firearm when one of these things is issued. It is also a federal offense to have a firearm if you get convicted of any sort of domestic assault, domestic battery, etc., even if it was just a silly little scrap. The federal firearms penalties are harsh. This guy could be looking at several years in prison with no parole even if the original restraining order was some bogus thing she got for no good reason. Of course it may very well be that this guy was a scary creep too, but decent people are getting nailed with these federal gun laws.
Just got a call back from my local fire marshall. In the 2003 International Fire Code, CHAPTER 33 EXPLOSIVES AND FIREWORKS, Section 3306 - Small Arms Ammunition; there is a restriction limiting you to 10,000 primers, 20 lbs of black powder and 50 lbs of smokeless powder.
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