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To: Abathar

“The restraining order had been taken out by an ex-girlfriend, Schmidt said.”

It is a federal offense now to have a gun or ammunition if there is any type of restraining order, co contact order or order of protection against you. All someone has to do is go down to a judge and tell them they are afraid of you and the judge will grant one of these orders. Judges seem to sign off on these as a matter of course because if something bad happens after they refuse to sign off on one of these it will come back to bite them later. Most people don’t realize that they are committing a federal offense by having a firearm when one of these things is issued. It is also a federal offense to have a firearm if you get convicted of any sort of domestic assault, domestic battery, etc., even if it was just a silly little scrap. The federal firearms penalties are harsh. This guy could be looking at several years in prison with no parole even if the original restraining order was some bogus thing she got for no good reason. Of course it may very well be that this guy was a scary creep too, but decent people are getting nailed with these federal gun laws.


139 posted on 08/31/2007 2:44:27 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz

For people already in possession of a firearm when an order is served, they have been granted additional criminal liability immediately. So do they just walk down to the cop shop and turn in their suddenly illegal firearms???

Back door gun confiscation is equally dangerous because the premise for any restraining order of protection is not a conviction by a court for anything but an inferred threat that can be misconstrued and manipulated for the purpose of further intimidation of the RKBA.

Even if the order is lifted, just the possession of a legal firearm during the course of the order has elevated the law abiding citizen to a federal offender forever taking their RKBA. This constitutes government tyranny. If the original charge is null and void, no subsequent charges arising from the original order should have standing.


184 posted on 09/01/2007 9:02:51 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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