Posted on 08/31/2007 5:28:19 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
“Rittberg was more conventional early on. He just became more and more a nutjob over the years. Finally, Ron Paul and the Republican Liberty Caucus and the Libertarian Party all disavowed him.”
According to this article, Ron Paul was more ‘conventional early on’ too. One could argue that it was Ron Paul who became a ‘nutjob over the years’. And, it’s not at all surprising that the libertarian party would disavow any one who supported the War in Iraq.
Ron Paul is not a patriot.
You can pimp for him all you want E3, but the FACT is that Paul marginilized himself with his own whackjob comments in at least two debates I saw on TV this year.
Paul is precisely like a friend of mine that declares we are in an unjust war b/c there is no “Declaration of War.” The authorization to use force is precisely that. If Paul has a problem w/ it then he should look to Congress (who apparently do not posess any testicles among the lot of them). To me, the difference between the authorization to use force and a formal Declaration of War is a distinction w/o a difference.
Paul’s position on why they (Islamists) attack us over here is utter bullsh!t! I lost a friend in 9/11 and this is personal w/ me. People like him can go suck eggs.
I used to respect Paul. No more. ‘Pod.
PS, I hate what the GOP has become as much or even more than you do. By no means am I a cheerleader for it.
President Giuliani - three cheers for Sanctuary Cities!
Vice President McCain - three cheers for Amnesty!
I do not participate in baiting on the Mitt threads.
I would oppose Romney b/c I think he is a johnny-come-lately to conservatism and I don’t believe he really is one.
All I can say is that I view Mormonism as a cult wrt the doctrine of my faith. I’m sure Mitt is a nice guy and all, but there is no reason to accept Mormonism as something it is not. The fact that Romney is a Mormon would not be a deciding factor into my vote for him as president, but it is part of who he is. The only religion that a candidate would profess that would disqualify him for my vote is Islam.
My personal vote is for Tancredo. Unfortunately, he does not have a chance b/c of the oligarchy the GOP has become.
Dondero is merely a disgruntled ex-employee. He surfs the internet trying to make friends and win support for his own agenda and campaign. You’ll see.
What he has sais is that a new investigation would show is typical big-government ineptitude and masmanagement, but he does not believe that anybody excect terrorists brought the plane down. In fact he’s the only politician I’ve heard refer to them as “Saudi terrorists.”
Actually, it was precisely an attempt to avoid declaring war.
Pauls position on why they (Islamists) attack us over here is utter bullsh!t!
Actually, among foreign policy experts, his position is not even a subject of controversy. Check out the "Educating Rudy Press Conference".
BTW, the man appearing in that video with Paul, Michael Scheuer, is the former head of the CIA's Bin Laden tracking unit.
I lost a friend in 9/11 and this is personal w/ me.
I'm sorry for your loss, but it doesn't give you any special insight into these matters.
I do know that the GOP ignores or denigrates Paul at their own peril. When the GOP establishment continue to treat Paul like dirt his supporters see that and they're going to stay home or vote 3rd party. Then the GOP and their blind faithful will once again bitch about those "losertarians" just like they did in last year's midterms.
You think the GOP would buy a clue and start listening to libertarian and swing voters who want true limited government and not the borrow-and-spend fiscal "conservatism" or the nanny-state big government under the pretext of Christianity. I say let Paul give the keynote speech at the GOP convention.
And you'll notice that these folks are supporting Paul on their own time, with their own money. How many supporters are holding seminars at malls or stands at fairs for Giuliani? Obama? Romney? Fact is, is that the anger at Paul is pure sour grapes and jealously. None of their candidates have fired up supporters like Paul has.
The Islamists attack us because it is an article of their faith to do so. A cursory reading of their Suras will lead you to that conclusion.
My point in mentioning my loss was basically to say that I do not care if the Islamists are offended or not. They declared war on us by capturing the hostages in Iran in 1979 and have continued actions ever since. War is what they want and war is what they are going to get.
>> I lost a friend in 9/11 and this is personal w/ me.
I'm sorry for your loss, but it doesn't give you any special insight into these matters.
Au contraire. It hasn't caused me to be blinded by kookery, which, unfortunately, you appear to be.
This is news?
I went back and reviewed the you tube video you linked to.
While I understand the points Scheuer and Paul were trying to make, their premise is fundamentally flawed.
If we had pulled up stakes and left Saudi prior to 9/11, that action would have still occurred.
Both Scheuer and Paul are stating that the radical Islamists are doing what they are doing b/c of “occupation.” While that may be have some basis in history, it fails to explain why people like Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg were beheaded. It fails to explain the forced conversion of newsmen like Steve Centanni of Fox News.
There is no justification for such acts, just as there was no justification for both attacks on the WTC and other places.
Why all the trashing of cars etc. last year by the Muslim youths? What has France occupied lately?
There are countless other examples and American “occupation” of other countries does not begin to explain it. To insist that and that alone is the reason for Islamist actions is to severly underestimate the enemy. Paul and Scheuer do a disservice to the country by putting that forward as the sole reason.
Quite simply, the Islamist position to non-Islamists is “Submit or Die.” They wish to establish a Caliphate. I believe that Zawahiri has stated so.
I would say Tancredo would be just such a candidate.
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