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Thompson to Announce Run for President with Online Video Followed by Three-State Campaign Tour
I'mWithFred ^ | August 30, 2007 | Friends of Fred Thompson Staff

Posted on 08/30/2007 9:56:05 PM PDT by Josh Painter

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To: Kimberly GG
LOL - someone who can't tell the difference between the free pass that is amnesty and a path to citizenship (that, imho, starts back in Mexico.)
Well, if it makes you feel better about your candidate, you just go ahead misinterpreting what Fred has said and then self-righteously attacking him for what he didn't say. As I said before - a brick wall. LOL!
141 posted on 08/31/2007 7:29:05 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: SuziQ
She really doesn’t like Mexicans, that’s all I can figure.

That attitude is going to get any progress towards solving the problem shoved back down our throats.

The last thing we need is being painted as bullheaded racists.

Again, I am glad it appears the adults will remain in charge.

142 posted on 08/31/2007 8:27:29 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: pissant

This from your Washington Post article.

“Candidates have been campaigning up a storm, yet the national polls have hardly budged. No second-tier hopeful has made a dramatic move. Most normal, non-politics-obsessed people still aren’t paying attention. There aren’t five people in America who can identify Mike Gravel on sight, and no one knows Duncan Hunter from Duncan Hines. And who’s Ron Paul? Why doesn’t he have a last name? Does he know George Ringo?”

That’s a good line...no one knows Duncan Hunter from Duncan Hines. Very truthful of you to point that out for me.
I think sometimes his supporters do not realize just how much their work is cut out for them. He is so obscure. How important is a member of the House of Representatives from California to anyone from the midwest? He doesn’t even get noticed in my state.

Fred outpolls him even in California.

I did read your links. He favors deporting as a general principle but does not say specifically that he would deport all of them, or how. [I have to work for a living, had to wait until after work to read them.]

Shoo them out? What does that mean?

We’ve got so many issues in this country that are important, he chooses this as his important issue and can’t spell out in specifics how to do it.


143 posted on 08/31/2007 8:44:19 PM PDT by hoosierpearl (To God be the glory.)
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To: hoosierpearl

Because it can’t be done.


144 posted on 08/31/2007 9:10:46 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: ejonesie22

Go read the Hunter interview here. He knows exactly how it gets done and it is exceedingly simple.


145 posted on 08/31/2007 9:24:13 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
I know, attrition and self deportation.

That won’t go as far as some think.

146 posted on 08/31/2007 9:33:51 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: ejonesie22

No. Seal the border, then redirect our resources & personnel to the interior ans start shipping them out. Hunter has no intention of waiting for self deportation.


147 posted on 08/31/2007 9:37:13 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

I have seen him mention both, but thought he had become a little more realistic lately.

You know as well as I do we cannot ship them all out. It is physically impossible. I have run the numbers time and time again in these pages alone.

Real solutions.


148 posted on 08/31/2007 9:44:40 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: ejonesie22

We ship out more than a million a year. Once the border is secured, or as Hunter calls it - the revolving door, a million here, million there start to add up. If you want to see self deprotation, within six months of a Hunter administration running ICE , DHS and the BP, the vermin will be scampering for home. Hunter is dead serious. He is not your typical bullshit spewing fraud.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889523/posts


149 posted on 08/31/2007 9:54:04 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
Pissant, I love you brother, but not even close:

From their own web site, listing accomplishments for 2006

Set New Record for Alien Removals: ICE removed nearly 195,000 illegal aliens from the country in FY 2006, a record for the agency and more than a 13 percent increase over the number of removals during the prior fiscal year. ICE also increased its detention bed space by 6,300 during the fiscal year 2006, bringing the current number of funded beds to 27,500 immigration detainees.

http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/factsheets/2006accomplishments.htm

Like I said, it just won't happen. Even if you double the current effort, it will take 30 years for 12 Million souls.

150 posted on 08/31/2007 11:32:35 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: ejonesie22

“The last thing we need is being painted as bullheaded racists.”

LMAO, where have you been? You’ll have to come up with something better than that. That card’s been played.

Illegal alien is not a race.

EFFECTIVELY SECURE THE BORDERS.
ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT.
NO AMNESTY.


151 posted on 09/01/2007 12:54:03 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (INVEST IN THE FUTURE - DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....(NO MORE CFRers))
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To: SWEETSUNNYSOUTH

Fred WILL be our next president and he ain’t takin’no crap from libs.

You were the same type of person that said that “Katherine Harris is the next Junior Senator from Florida” and “Diane Irey is the next Congressman to kick Murthas butt” The result was 69-31 percent. Please this time I hope you have it right for a change. Because if we go with your track record we are going to end up with Hillary.


152 posted on 09/01/2007 1:19:38 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Kimberly GG
And it will be played again and again and again. You are not stupid, at this point in time Illegal Alien = Mexican. We are not talking Irish here.

If you really want to win this thing you are going to have to start playing smarter, not LOUDER.

153 posted on 09/01/2007 6:50:30 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: ejonesie22

LOL. Keep trying. ICE does but a fraction of the deportations. The Border Patrol does the vast, vast majority, mostly in the SW states. Since 1994, over 15 MILLION!!!

Go back and read Hunter’s press conference on FR. SEAL the border, then we move heavily into interior enforcement.

It is so frickin simple.


154 posted on 09/01/2007 8:15:14 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: ejonesie22; Kimberly GG

There are millions of illegals not from Mexico, they all need to go.


155 posted on 09/01/2007 8:20:54 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: hoosierpearl

My only comment is that I would fully expect Fred to outpoll Duncan in CA.

Duncan represents a single congressional district and has never run statewide in CA. Even his congressional district isn’t highly visible when compared to those around LA and up north. And given that Fred is an actor, CA should be fertile ground. For those politically savvy activists who support Fred in CA, no doubt they also know a lot about his other careers besides acting.

I’m just giving reasons why it’s not to Duncan’s advantage in CA merely to be a Californian. I don’t mean to suggest that you aren’t aware of the points I’m making. I’m making them for the benefit of those who lurk and read rather than for your benefit.


156 posted on 09/01/2007 8:29:23 AM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: pissant
Dude, do a little google searching. ICE did about 195,000 which is not bad considering they only have 35 or so task forces. There were a few miscellaneous others. The figure shows around 197,000 in total all agencies.

Here is just one source, House of Representatives report:

http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/110/sha072407.htm

That is for those aliens already in country. The border patrol does capture at the border itself and repatriate, but that does nothing for the number already here.

But if you can give me citations on these millions please do.

157 posted on 09/01/2007 11:44:27 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: ejonesie22

I just told you that ICE soes a fraction of the deprotatios. The BP does millions. Your argument is weak-kneed conventional wisdom. The same crap that the McCain’s and Bush’s of the world use to defend amnesty...”we can’t deport 12 million people”. I reject that nonsense, as does Hunter.

You are running interference for Fred. Unfortuantely, Fred knows zilch about the subject. Hunter knows exactly what to do and how to get rid of the illegals. It starts with slamming the border shut so that we don’t have to deport the same people multiple times. Hunter is the only guy with any credibility regarding sealing off the border.

If the BP is not busy apprehending millions of border crossers in the SW, they can apprehend them elsewhere, which is exactly Hunter’s plan.

And if you want to see ‘self deportation’ come to fruition, the only way that will happen is when thousands more BP and ICE agents start cracking down.


158 posted on 09/01/2007 12:05:46 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: ejonesie22

If you want to end illegal immigration and get rid of the illegals here, there is only one choice.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889523/posts


159 posted on 09/01/2007 12:08:32 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Give me the demographics.


160 posted on 09/01/2007 12:12:52 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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