Posted on 08/27/2007 1:37:39 PM PDT by BnBlFlag
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Guess What Folks--Secesson Wasn't Treason by Al Benson Jr.
More and more of late I have been reading articles dealing with certain black racist groups that claim to have the best interests of average black folks at heart (they really don't). It seems these organizations can't take time to address the problems of black crime in the black community or of single-parent families in the black community in any meaningful way. It's much more lucrative for them (and it gets more press coverage) if they spend their time and resources attacking Confederate symbols. Ive come to the conclusion that they really don't give a rip for the welfare of black families. They only use that as a facade to mask their real agenda--the destruction of Southern, Christian culture.
Whenever they deal with questions pertaining to history they inevitably come down on that same old lame horse that the South was evil because they seceded from the Union--and hey--everybody knows that secession was treason anyway. Sorry folks, but that old line is nothing more than a gigantic pile of cow chips that smells real ripe in the hot August sun! And I suspect that many of them know that--they just don't want you to know it--all the better to manipulate you my dear!
It is interesting that those people never mention the fact that the New England states threatened secession three times--that's right three times--before 1860. In 1814 delegates from those New England states actually met in Hartford, Connecticut to consider seceding from the Union. Look up the Hartford Convention of 1814 on the Internet if you want a little background. Hardly anyone ever mentions the threatened secession of the New England states. Most "history" books I've seen never mention it. Secession is never discussed until 1860 when it suddenly became "treasonous" for the Southern states to do it. What about the treasonous intent of the New England states earlier? Well, you see, it's only treasonous if the South does it.
Columnist Joe Sobran, whom I enjoy, once wrote an article in which he stated that "...Jefferson was an explicit secessionist. For openers he wrote a famous secessionist document known to posterity as the Declaration of Independence." If these black racist groups are right, that must mean that Jefferson was guilty of treason, as were Washington and all these others that aided them in our secession from Great Britain. Maybe the black racists all wish they were still citizens of Great Britain. If that's the case, then as far as I know, the airlines are still booking trips to London, so nothing is stopping them.
After the War of Northern Aggression against the South was over (at least the shooting part) the abolitionist radicals in Washington decided they would try Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States as a co-conspirator in the Lincoln assassination (which would have been just great for Edwin M. Stanton) and as a traitor for leading the secessionist government in Richmond, though secession had hardly been original with Mr. Davis. However, trying Davis for treason as a secessionist was one trick the abolitionist radicals couldn't quite pull off.
Burke Davis, (no relation to Jeff Davis that I know of) in his book The Long Surrender on page 204, noted a quote by Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase, telling Edwin Stanton that "If you bring these leaders to trial, it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution, secession is not rebellion...His (Jeff Davis') capture was a mistake. His trial will be a greater one. We cannot convict him of treason." Burke Davis then continued on page 214, noting that a congressiona committee proposed a special court for Davis' trial, headed by Judge Franz Lieber. Davis wrote: "After studying more than 270,000 Confederate documents, seeking evidence against Davis, the court discouraged the War Department: 'Davis will be found not guilty,' Lieber reported 'and we shall stand there completely beaten'." What the radical Yankees and their lawyers were admitting among themselves (but quite obviously not for the historical record) was that they and Lincoln had just fought a war of aggression agains the Southern states and their people, a war that had taken or maimed the lives of over 600,000 Americans, both North and South, and they had not one shread of constitutional justification for having done so, nor had they any constitutional right to have impeded the Southern states when they chose to withdraw from a Union for which they were paying 83% of all the expenses, while getting precious little back for it, save insults from the North.
Most of us detest big government or collectivism. Yet, since the advent of the Lincoln administration we have been getting ever increasing doses of it. Lincoln was, in one sense, the "great emancipator" in that he freed the federal government from any chains the constitution had previously bound it with, so it could now roam about unfettered "seeking to devous whoseover it could." And where the Founders sought to give us "free and independent states" is anyone naive enough anymore as to think the states are still free and independent? Those who honestly still think that are prime candidates for belief in the Easter Bunny, for he is every bit as real as is the "freedom" our states experience at this point in history. Our federal government today is even worse than what our forefathers went to war against Britain to prevent. And because we have been mostly educated in their government brain laundries (public schools) most still harbor the illusion that they are "free." Well, as they say, "the brainwashed never wonder." ___________________
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you said FIRST that Cortez was camped outside of Tenochtitlan AND on the same thread that Cortez had NOT even landed in Mexico at that time.
when i asked you about this GLARING inconsistency in you posts, you TRIED to shift the blame for YOUR stupidity/ignorance and/or LIE to anybody./somebody/everybody but the LIAR, good old "BUBBA, the LIAR" .
that is ONLY one of your SELF-made LIES that make you look STUPID & PITIFUL, as well as DISHONEST.
face it, BOOB, you're RUINED.
laughing AT you.
free dixie,sw
So, are you going to give any more information about that list of abolitionists?
You are missing the boat by writing off eastern Washington and Oregon.
Then of course, there's the fact that no Spanish explorers penetrated up towards El Paso until Coronado in 1540.
There's little doubt that what you've half remembered is the Onate expedition Thanksgiving outside El Paso in 1598, but that isn't anything like "100+" years before the Pilgrims landed, unless in your mind a date that begins with a 15 is always 100 years before a date that begins with a 16.
don't have the GUTS to tell the TRUTH about that, do you LIAR???
your "tapestry of lies", which you continue to TRY to blame on somebody/anybody/everybody except YOURSELF and/or DESPERATELY trying "to change the subject" to ANYTHING except your LIES, is what RUINED you forever on this forum. NOTHING that you post is BELIEVED, period. end of story.
that's why almost NOBODY but me will post to you anymore. i post to you ONLY to RIDICULE you & to remind our readers WHAT sort of CREEPS, bigots & FOOLS are members of the "DAMNyankee coven of LEFTISTS, idiots, REVISIONISTS, nitwits, FOOLS, etc.".
laughing AT you.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
NOTHING you post is BELIEVED, anymore.
laughing AT you, LIAR/BIGOT/FOOL.
free dixie,sw
every lie that he gets CAUGHT telling is EVERYBODY's/SOMEBODY's/ANYBODY's fault EXCEPT his own.
for example, on the SAME thread, he claimed that Cortez had NOT landed in Mexico in 1519 AND that he HAD landed, but was fighting the Aztecs, in 1519. this is NOT an OPINION, where a "difference in opinion" MIGHT exist. instead it is a KNOWING, intentional LIE told by "bubba ho-tep", who is willing to DO/SAY ANYTHING to "win" an argument.
WHEN caught in THAT lie by another FReeper, "bubba" tried to blame HIS lie on someone else, rather than to say, "i'm SORRY for this. When i posted it, i KNEW that i was being DECEITFUL."
fyi, THAT is the sort of LIAR that "bubba" is.
all readers should also note that "bubba, the liar" has ADMITTED to having been PERMANENTLY BANNED from FR under another "screen-name". WHICH banned FReeper he was is QUESTIONABLE. he SAYS that he used to be "Heyworth", the BIGOT, but i am convinced that he REALLY was "modernman", who was banned for "cyber-stalking" several FReepers & for other DISHONEST & BIGOTED practices.
to "bubba, the LIAR: laughing AT you!!!
free dixie,sw
for example, on the SAME thread, he claimed that Cortez had NOT landed in Mexico in 1519
Where did I say that? FInd the post. I dare you.
Of course, we could clear up this whole thing if you'd give a little more detail about that Thanksgiving "100+" years before the Pilgrims landed. Was it 100+1, 100+2, or something else?
WHEN caught in THAT lie by another FReeper, "bubba" tried to blame HIS lie on someone else
Do you ever get tired of lying, or does it just come naturally to you? Again, show the post where some other Freeper caught me in a lie over the "El Paso Thanksgiving" and where I attemped to blame someone else. You can't, because it's a lie and either you know or you're so deluded that you should be institutionalized.
Prove what you say. Show the posts where I do these things or admit you're a liar who can't help himself.
From the thread State of Dixie - Redux
Post #28 "fwiw, the FIRST THANKSGIVING was celebrated in TEXAS, just a few miles south of El Paso, about 100+ years BEFORE the pilgrim's arrival."Post #36 "oddly enough the FIRST THANKSGIVING in TX was held for PRECISELY the same reason as the one in "pilgrim-land" (over a CENTURY later!)."
Post #92 "may i suggest that you contact the history department at UTEP & ask them. the info was published in Texas Monthly, as well."
free dixie,sw
do you HAVE a point, FOOL???
laughing AT you, LIAR.
free dixie,sw
laughing AT you, LIAR/FOOL/BIGOT.
free dixie,sw
But when you say the pledge of allegiance, do you really mean it or do you just mouth the words, all the while dreaming of the stars and bars?
You just can't stand it, can you? It just eats you up. What a doofus.
SADLY i will NOT live to see that day of FREEDOM, but i believe that my 16YO niece will one day breathe FREE dixie air.
btw, come that day of LIBERTY, i suspect that MANY liberty-LOVING people from the north will suddenly decide to come south to stay & to wave our dixie flag.
btw, you never said if YOU served in the US military. (my GUESS is NO.)
i, otoh, am a retired commissioned officer, with wartime service in two theaters. (i further suspect that the only theater you've ever been in was to see a movie, most probably one that DAMNS the America that i served.)
oh, and as for your DUMB-bunny question i say "DIVISIBLE", as other true southrons do.
free dixie,sw
i post to you only to RIDICULE one of the TWO most ignorant/prejudiced people on FR. (the other BIGOT is "x".)
fyi, the ONLY post that i really want to see on these threads from you is:
"I'm a LIAR, a FOOL, a BIGOT & I'm so ASHAMED of what I am ,that i'm resigning forever from this forum." (signed) "bubba ho-tep"
laughing AT you as so many others on this forum do.
free dixie,sw
No, but I was in the WTC on 9/11/01. The plane crashed a few floors above my office.
Look, you might want to tell the world how the Yankees ruined the south, but you have to remember, without the North, you guys would just be a poor farming country. You wouldn’t have had rural electricity, let alone highways.
2.also, i'm glad you survived;a friend of mine on FR wasn't so lucky.
3. had my ancestors WON their war for LIBERTY, yes we MIGHT still be a "poor farming country" but we would be FREE & NOT afflicted with the likes of the "hilleryBEAST",olympia snow-JOB, chuckie schumer, "plugs" biden, "the Cape Cod orca", HANOI-john kerry & a host of other SOCIALISTS/creeps/CRIMINALS that the north keeps sending to the congress. to get rid of those sorts of idiots/bigots/haters PERMANENTLY, i'd vote to return to candles & outdoor toilet facilities!!!!
4. btw, you folks "up there" may wish that we southrons HAD won before the likes of the UNassimilated folks from "farther south" get through with what they have planned for this country. at least your neighboring country would be English speaking!(you might want to practice saying, "Mi casa es su casa" and/or "Mi patria es TU patria".)
5. and finally, BEFORE you question the patriotism/service to this country, you should go "sign up" for the armed forces. we vets do NOT take kindly to being "preached at" by the "didn't serve", "wasn't there", "didn't do that" set.
free dixie,sw
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