Posted on 08/27/2007 1:37:39 PM PDT by BnBlFlag
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Guess What Folks--Secesson Wasn't Treason by Al Benson Jr.
More and more of late I have been reading articles dealing with certain black racist groups that claim to have the best interests of average black folks at heart (they really don't). It seems these organizations can't take time to address the problems of black crime in the black community or of single-parent families in the black community in any meaningful way. It's much more lucrative for them (and it gets more press coverage) if they spend their time and resources attacking Confederate symbols. Ive come to the conclusion that they really don't give a rip for the welfare of black families. They only use that as a facade to mask their real agenda--the destruction of Southern, Christian culture.
Whenever they deal with questions pertaining to history they inevitably come down on that same old lame horse that the South was evil because they seceded from the Union--and hey--everybody knows that secession was treason anyway. Sorry folks, but that old line is nothing more than a gigantic pile of cow chips that smells real ripe in the hot August sun! And I suspect that many of them know that--they just don't want you to know it--all the better to manipulate you my dear!
It is interesting that those people never mention the fact that the New England states threatened secession three times--that's right three times--before 1860. In 1814 delegates from those New England states actually met in Hartford, Connecticut to consider seceding from the Union. Look up the Hartford Convention of 1814 on the Internet if you want a little background. Hardly anyone ever mentions the threatened secession of the New England states. Most "history" books I've seen never mention it. Secession is never discussed until 1860 when it suddenly became "treasonous" for the Southern states to do it. What about the treasonous intent of the New England states earlier? Well, you see, it's only treasonous if the South does it.
Columnist Joe Sobran, whom I enjoy, once wrote an article in which he stated that "...Jefferson was an explicit secessionist. For openers he wrote a famous secessionist document known to posterity as the Declaration of Independence." If these black racist groups are right, that must mean that Jefferson was guilty of treason, as were Washington and all these others that aided them in our secession from Great Britain. Maybe the black racists all wish they were still citizens of Great Britain. If that's the case, then as far as I know, the airlines are still booking trips to London, so nothing is stopping them.
After the War of Northern Aggression against the South was over (at least the shooting part) the abolitionist radicals in Washington decided they would try Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States as a co-conspirator in the Lincoln assassination (which would have been just great for Edwin M. Stanton) and as a traitor for leading the secessionist government in Richmond, though secession had hardly been original with Mr. Davis. However, trying Davis for treason as a secessionist was one trick the abolitionist radicals couldn't quite pull off.
Burke Davis, (no relation to Jeff Davis that I know of) in his book The Long Surrender on page 204, noted a quote by Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase, telling Edwin Stanton that "If you bring these leaders to trial, it will condemn the North, for by the Constitution, secession is not rebellion...His (Jeff Davis') capture was a mistake. His trial will be a greater one. We cannot convict him of treason." Burke Davis then continued on page 214, noting that a congressiona committee proposed a special court for Davis' trial, headed by Judge Franz Lieber. Davis wrote: "After studying more than 270,000 Confederate documents, seeking evidence against Davis, the court discouraged the War Department: 'Davis will be found not guilty,' Lieber reported 'and we shall stand there completely beaten'." What the radical Yankees and their lawyers were admitting among themselves (but quite obviously not for the historical record) was that they and Lincoln had just fought a war of aggression agains the Southern states and their people, a war that had taken or maimed the lives of over 600,000 Americans, both North and South, and they had not one shread of constitutional justification for having done so, nor had they any constitutional right to have impeded the Southern states when they chose to withdraw from a Union for which they were paying 83% of all the expenses, while getting precious little back for it, save insults from the North.
Most of us detest big government or collectivism. Yet, since the advent of the Lincoln administration we have been getting ever increasing doses of it. Lincoln was, in one sense, the "great emancipator" in that he freed the federal government from any chains the constitution had previously bound it with, so it could now roam about unfettered "seeking to devous whoseover it could." And where the Founders sought to give us "free and independent states" is anyone naive enough anymore as to think the states are still free and independent? Those who honestly still think that are prime candidates for belief in the Easter Bunny, for he is every bit as real as is the "freedom" our states experience at this point in history. Our federal government today is even worse than what our forefathers went to war against Britain to prevent. And because we have been mostly educated in their government brain laundries (public schools) most still harbor the illusion that they are "free." Well, as they say, "the brainwashed never wonder." ___________________
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They’re going to shoot Stonewall Jackson.
I’m not making any claim about motivations or morals or modern activist groups, simply pointing out that secession is not generally the historical sin that blacks hold against the southern states.
The ratification of the conventions of nine states, shall be sufficient for the establishment of this Constitution between the states so ratifying the same.(Article VII).
the TRUTH is that TX v. White, like the Dredd Scott, Plessy v. Fergurson & Roe v. Wade are DECISIONS of the USSC, which (on their face) are UN-Constitutional.
it's called MAKING NEW LAW, rather than INTERPRETING the Constitution. also, TX v White was AFTER the WBTS, thus it has NO validity for the 1861-65 period.
free dixie,sw
regardless of the "lincoln myth", lincoln was no better/worse than clinton as POTUS. he was simply a cheap, scheming politician. (NOTE: getting killed does NOT make you a saint. lincoln & jfk were BOTH UNworthy of the "secular sainthood" which the media placed upon their memory.)
NOTHING that would advance their WISHES, power and/or EGOMANIA was "out of bounds". NEITHER would tolerate disagreement with their demands. NEITHER tolerated criticism well (lincoln, for example, JAILED many newspapermen in a dungeon at Ft McHenry for publishing critical comments about him, without even the pretense of an indictment, warrant or trial. they were simply JAILED!)
the FACTS are that those two were the WORST presidents ever.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
Yes, sadly I do...
What I see today as a result of it is sufficient. The CSA was closer to the intent of the founders. Lincoln in effect tore up the U.S. Constitution. Note the withdrawals from the Unions by the states were the choice of the majority living in them. They were done by the state elected governing bodies and vote of the people and as such we as valid as tour withdrawal from Great Britain.
The end result is what we have today. A federal governmnet which is far more powerful than founders intent especially the office of POTUS which is inching closer to become a throne for a dictator. The past seven years it seems there is no power congress will not in direct violation of the Constitution give POTUS nor do they blink an eye taking more and more say away from individual states. That was the Pandora's Box Lincoln opened.
free dixie,sw
free dixie HUGS,sw
further a recent survey of HS grads (of the "publick screwl edgeumakashun sistim") do NOT know what CENTURY that WWII was fought!!! (this is especially sad, inasmuch as many of the grads have LIVING family members who were IN the war.)
free dixie,sw
Hi, Stand!
My husband brought a Cherokee history book home from Washington yesterday; I was reading it until the brothers woke up the baby.
and the brothers met with a fatal accident, as a result??? (chuckle)
free dixie HUGS,sw
LOL! That was very funny.
I might not have made it clear. It was the 18th North Carolina Infantry Regiment.
So, I was checking to see if my opinion that Civil War buffs would understand where and when the book opened by that line.
I did an informal survery today among some folks. Besides Lee and Grant... the majority did not know who Jackson, Stuart, Sheridan, Reynolds were. I thought is rather sad too.
“NOPE. it is called POLITICS. lincoln, like “wee willie klintoon”, would SAY and/or DO anything to GET elected & GET AHEAD.
regardless of the “lincoln myth”, lincoln was no better/worse than clinton as POTUS. he was simply a cheap, scheming politician. (NOTE: getting killed does NOT make you a saint. lincoln & jfk were BOTH UNworthy of the “secular sainthood” which the media placed upon their memory.)
NOTHING that would advance their WISHES, power and/or EGOMANIA was “out of bounds”. NEITHER would tolerate disagreement with their demands. NEITHER tolerated criticism well (lincoln, for example, JAILED many newspapermen in a dungeon at Ft McHenry for publishing critical comments about him, without even the pretense of an indictment, warrant or trial. they were simply JAILED!)
the FACTS are that those two were the WORST presidents ever.
free dixie,sw”
I’m a huge Lincoln fan, like most real Americans. That’s why he has that huge Memorial on the bank of the Potomac.
My favorite part of the Civil War was the Emancipation Proclamation. It caused absolute havoc in the Confederacy. Tens of thousands of blacks left southern farms and plantations and headed for Union Army lines. By the end of the war the North had 180,000 additional black troops who were armed and trained to go kill their former owners.
Well, when you put it that way... LOL!
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