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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I for one will not play this silly game. I would be content to vote for a ‘placeholder’. Harriet Myers and immigration ‘reform’ are two instances I cite where the base has carried the day.
I will not allow the ‘flood gates’ to be opened. Once you ‘give’ the populace largess from the treasury, you can never take it back.
We may be doomed like Sisyphus to push that rock up that hill but at least we can keep the rock from growing bigger!


3 posted on 08/27/2007 8:05:48 AM PDT by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hiraba (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: griswold3
I didn't vote in 1968. I never liked Nixon, and ten I actually met Humphrey and saw him up real close. I lived in Washington for 12 years and was married to pulib events TV. I saw a lot of the pols up close. It does give one a jaded view of diminished expectations.

I think we have developed a new ability to make our views known and heeded in Washington. That is the true lesson of Myers and immigration failure. Rather than solely looking for a percise fit on beliefs, we might evaluate responsiveness. Who is it that cares what we think and want?

I, for one, am not looking for a self-important dictator out to impose his ideas on the rest of us, even if I agree with him. Watch out for those guys like Chavez who just advanced the clocks in Venezuela a half hour or Huckabee and Newt who would have us all running laps around our neighborhood in the name of wellness.

As for those who balefully predict that electing Rudy will end the Republican party, I suggest they read a little history. Ot, check out Christy Whitman, "It's My Party, Too." I sure would hate to be at you house on Thanksgiving when the out of town relatives show up.

5 posted on 08/27/2007 8:22:03 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: griswold3
I would be content to vote for a ‘placeholder’. Harriet Myers and immigration ‘reform’ are two instances I cite where the base has carried the day.

And, Bush 41's tax increase, the nomination of David Souter to SCOTUS and George W. and the GOP's massive expansion of government and spending are three times the base hasn't carried the day.

And, Giuliani is vastly more liberal than either Bush.

6 posted on 08/27/2007 11:37:16 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: griswold3
I would be content to vote for a ‘placeholder’. Harriet Myers and immigration ‘reform’ are two instances I cite where the base has carried the day.

And, Bush 41's tax increase, the nomination of David Souter to SCOTUS and George W. and the GOP's massive expansion of government and spending are three times the base hasn't carried the day.

And, Giuliani is vastly more liberal than either Bush.

BTW, Republicans held Congress when during the Meiers nomination and many Democrats opposed illegal immigration.

Don't bet on the GOP, which would be shrinking minority under Giuliani, stepping up and fiibustering all the liberal legislation RINO Rudy would push through.

7 posted on 08/27/2007 11:40:13 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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