[billbears]

Your defeatism and ignorance of the enemy we are facing is disgusting and horrifying.

And your consistent tactic to avoid the argument with one line slander is expected.

[jveritas]

What argument? I have answered you defeatists so many times before on many other threads why we have to win this war and yet you come here and make yourself the intellectual who has the brains where in reality you are ignorant beyond belief about the islamic terrorist enemies who we are fighting. You even go back to the cursaders to back up your defeatism! Not only that but you tell us how intellectual you are by showing that you read two books. One of the book that you read is a conspiracy theory that blames President Wilson interference in WW I to the communist revolution in Russia, and the rise of Stalin and Hitler!

How can I argue with someone who is so ignorant about history and yet he presents himself as the "smart" and "intellectual" guy. How can I argue with somone who tells me that 1+1=5 and presents himself as a genius who knows it all.

It is very simple we must win this war or else the consequences will be worse than any nightmares we can imagine. I posted why so many times and I will post it again in the next post.

[jveritas]

We are not fighting in Iraq for the Iraqis, we are fighting for our freedom and our way of life and those of our children, grandchildren, and for many generations to come.

What will happen if we leave before we achieve victory?

The terrorists whether they are Al Qaeda or the Iranian and Syrian terrorist regimes or a combination of all of them will not only control Iraq but the whole Middle East and with it come consequences to the US and the West that is worse the most horrible nightmares we can imagine. The islamic terrorists will be emboldened beyond imagination and they will have millions of recruits and volunteers ready to fight and destroy the world to establish their seventh century islamic society and Caliphate. The islamic terrorists will use the hundreds of billions of dollars from oil revenues to conduct terrorists attacks that are hundreds of folds more horrible, more deadly, and more destructive than the 9/11 terrorists attacks, including the use of nuclear weapons. They will also use the oil weapon to blackmail the Western and the world economy and bring it to its knees.

If some terrorists dwelling in camps in Afghanistan with a limited budget and few volunteers were able to do 9/11 terrorist attacks, killed 3000 people and caused one trillion dollars in economic losses, imagine the incredible horrors that the terrorists can inflict on us if they control the whole Middle East and it vast revenues.

Any person who has a shred of patriotism and a basic common sense will realize that we simply cannot afford to leave Iraq before we defeat terrorism there.