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To: billbears
What argument? I have answered you defeatists so many times before on many other threads why we have to win this war and yet you come here and make yourself the intellectual who has the brains where in reality you are ignorant beyond belief about the islamic terrorist enemies who we are fighting. You even go back to the cursaders to back up your defeatism! Not only that but you tell us how intellectual you are by showing that you read two books. One of the book that you read is a conspiracy theory that blames President Wilson interference in WW I to the communist revolution in Russia, and the rise of Stalin and Hitler!

How can I argue with someone who is so ignorant about history and yet he presents himself as the "smart" and "intellectual" guy. How can I argue with somone who tells me that 1+1=5 and presents himself as a genius who knows it all.

It is very simple we must win this war or else the consequences will be worse than any nightmares we can imagine. I posted why so many times and I will post it again in the next post.

1,153 posted on 08/28/2007 5:36:29 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: jveritas
One of the book that you read is a conspiracy theory that blames President Wilson interference in WW I to the communist revolution in Russia, and the rise of Stalin and Hitler!

Interesting. Conspiracy. I doubt you've read the book nor any other book that addresses the issues from a WWI perspective. And rather it's factual that if the vacuum that was created in Germany wasn't there, then Hitler wouldn't have had a place to rise from. It's factual that Britain and France had plans for breaking up the ME by 1916. It's factual that the US convinced Russia (through promises of money, materials, etc.) to stay in the war at the detriment of the Russian government. It's factual the Zimmerman telegram and Mexico wasn't a threat (well other than Wilson's interventionist policies into Mexico before WWI but I imagine you think that was 'right' as well). It's also factual that WWI was none of our concern.

"If Russia's Provisional Government had quit the war and negotiated peace with Germany in early 1917, we might never had heard of Lenin. He would have returned home to find Russians celebrating the end of the war. Soldiers would have been returning home and the process of reviving the economy would have begun ... Finally of course, the Czar was gone, and the Russian army would have been there to defend the Provisional Government, virtually ruling out prospects for a Bolshevik coup.

Alexander Kerensky and some others in the Provisional Government wanted Russia to stay in the war, and maybe they would have prevailed if they had decided on their own. But relentless diplomatic pressure from Britain and France, and diplomatic pressure and bribes from Woodrow Wilson, helped assure that the virtually bankrupt Provisional Government would stay in the war."

But please enlighten us. Your grasp of historical international affairs is second probably only to Bush..

It's factual that Wilson believed it was his right, no responsibility, to 'spread democracy' throughout the world. Much like another President....I imagine you believe Powell's facts about FDR's economic polices are conspiracies as well, since all good 'conservatives' welcome big government.

1,155 posted on 08/28/2007 6:42:24 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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