Ron Paul supporters urged to attend MoveOn.org Rally !

RonPaul MeetUp Group ^ | 26 August 2007 | David Osborne

[davidosborne]

Many of you know that I help organize the Duncan Hunter "meetup" group(s). I decided to peek in at the "competition" and found it very interesting that Ron Paul supporters are being urged to attend the MoveOn.org rally....

http://ronpaul.meetup.com/1/boards/view/viewthread?thread=3421862

I post this because I know there are a lot of folks on FR that support Ron Paul.. I just wonder if you are participating in this effort.. or what you think about this whole business of catering to MoveOn.org

.... quote from an active Ron Paul supporter

Somebody posted a thread concerning moveon, and letting their members know about Ron Paul. As a member of moveon.org, I received today an invitation to create an anti-war rally on August 28th. They will be doing rallies all across the nation on that day. We should invade this event. During the rally, bring anti-war stickers, signs, and flags -- and also Ron Paul signs. Introduce moveon members to Ron Paul, the REAL anti-war candidate! Anti-war people will ask about Ron Paul and be introduced to him on that day. Don't be rude, just gently introduce people to the peace candidate. Moveon.org is well cordinated, so if enough of our people show up at their rallies, we might be able to convert a huge number of people.

I have already created a moveon.org anti-war rally, on the 28th at 7pm, right outisde of the West Covina Mall. Please, everybody who can in this group, COME. It's on the corner of Vincent and Plaza Drive in West Covina.

Edited by Karsten Nicholson on Aug 24, 2007 at 1:44 PM

[cake_crumb]

"...but they are humorous. ;-)"

C'mon, you gotta admit they're not near as much fun as Al or Dean. Or even Kerry. Even though Edwards was his VP candidate, Kerry was the moron who actually said "but we have better hair!" And I can't see Ron Paul screaming a nice, cleansing, "AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH" to 200 million people, as Dean did.

We had a better class of village idiot in those days (**sigh**)

...or maybe I'm just gettin' old

[cake_crumb]

"I'm guessing that part of that 29% is either profiting from the war or (sadly) has a family member there."

...Or recognize that the Mexican border is not the end all, be all of flipping human existence, know that walls have two sides : they keep the infidels, the foreign devils out while keeping citizens IN and all Paul supporters are too stupid to realize it or remember the lessons of the former Soviet Union. You can bitch, you can scream, you can yell and call for the president to be lynched, but if you have your wall while another Clinton is in power, you will be NOTHING but Waco-ed.

Period.

[Borax Queen]

Well, if you are talking about walls and securing the Mexican and Canadian borders and the ports, that would be most patriotic and intelligent Americans who support a secure border: 70 - 90%. So as much as you may blither and flail and try to convince yourself that a never-ending, politically correct, overseas war is good, securing the American border is bad, and Bush is a god, you are in a very tiny minority there.

[cake_crumb]

I have heard precious few talking about protecting the Canadian border, and as for the ports, the only suggestion I managed to collect before backing away from the insanity is to close them. I'm anti illegal. I know what "closed borders" mean.

I'm for enforcing our existing laws, because anything else is logistically impossible. I am virulently opposed to closed borders. Aren't a couple of hundred million dead people enough to prove that totalitarianism does not equal "national security"?? And THOSE are the loudest screamers. If you do not agree with their opinions, I am sorry, you're not screaming loudly enough...though I can see why, since I'm now a "globalist" for opposing "closed borders". But I still support Hunter AND Thompson, should he decide to run.

All I wanted were valid, workable, border security suggestions from people whom I mostly agree with, but not many wanted to debate - they only want to dictate. They chased away anyone who'd listen, which is a shame.

[cake_crumb]

HEY, Georgia won the Little League World Series!!

[Allegra]

HEY, Georgia won the Little League World Series!!

And the Houston Texans beat the Dallas Cowboys in pre-season NFL last night!

I know pre-season isn't a big deal, but anytime Houston beats Dallas, it's WAY cool. :-D

Well, if you're from Houston it is, anyway...

[loboinok]

BTTT

[Borax Queen]

I'm anti illegal. I know what "closed borders" mean. I'm for enforcing our existing laws, because anything else is logistically impossible. I am virulently opposed to closed borders.

Good! So am I! I think we could build a wall if we wanted to (you know, being a great country and all that), but in general I am not for that. I think a lot of times, a "closed border" is a figure of speech?

[Abcdefg]

Did you hear Jerry Jones say 400 feet was a quarter of a mile when he was being interviewed at halftime? WOW!

[Abcdefg]

Jerry Jones wasn’t making any sense during the interview. The new stadium arches he was trying to describe are 300 feet high and span 1290 feet.

[LdSentinal]

They did it in Georgia, those bastards.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Sorry, but MoveOn.org?

Why in the world is Ron Paul the only Republican attracting the Leftist fringe? Explain that.

[Abcdefg]

Everybody loves Ron Paul_;^)

[soccermom]

"I never expected such a dishonest post would come from you." What was dishonest about his post? Are you saying Ron Paul supporters were not urged to attend a MoveOn.org rally?

[End Times Crusader]

Which is why he’s never polled more than 3%.

[George W. Bush]

Perhaps we should look in more detail. So I compiled the following screenshots from the relevant MeetUp pages. As will become obvious, this entire thing is just ridiculous and tells us very little about Ron Paul supporters and MoveOn.org.

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First, we have the original post page. It consists of only three posts, all by the event organizer, Karsten.



Second, we have Karsten himself. A college junior, flips between Dim, indie, Libertarian, Republican, etc. He's managed to register as a lot of things for a guy who's only voted in one presidential election. Notice his own signup date of August 18th. Karsten himself has only been a member of the Ron Paul Meetup there for less than ten days (but is inviting people to "invade" a MoveOn anti-war event). Karsten would seem to be as much an "invader" of the Ron Paul Meetup as any of the Pasadena group are "invaders" of a MoveOn event.



Third, we have the responses to Karsten's invitation. One RSVP besides Karsten himself (the guy with the anti-war jerky). Four said "maybe" (only three are RP Meetup members. And three RSVP'd as "No".

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It would appear that the remaining 265 members of the Pasadena Ron Paul Meetup group have no interest in a MoveOn.org anti-war rally. Given that eight RP Meetup members responded and we will assume for purposes of discussion that they all actually wished to attend and protest the war, that would mean that just barely 3% of the Pasadena Ron Paul Meetup group has any interest in anti-war protests or MoveOn rallies.

It'll probably be Karsten with one guy from the RP Meetup and a dozen MoveOn anti-war types. Of course, the MoveOns will likely fail to show up too. In the end, Karsten will be lucky to get 8-10 people standing on the street holding signs.

[Abcdefg]

Re your tag line: I betcha there are drug addicts that like your candidate (whoever that may be).

[COgamer]

“Ron Paul means well...but has become delusional...”

I think Ron Paul is fine... it’s some of his supporters who are well and truly out of their minds.

[karsten5]

I am Karsten Nicholson, the author of the post that you are all talking about.

Dear freerepublic.com users:
Ron Paul is NOT a socialist.
He wants to ABOLISH the IRS.
He has NEVER voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He is strongly pro-life.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He strongly opposes government healthcare.
He led the Texas delegation for Ronald Reagan in 1976.
He is a traditional, libertarian-leaning conservative.

Ron Paul supporters are NOT all moveon members, but the freedom message brings people together. There are many former democrats in our campaign, as well as many Republicans, and many Independents.

Check him out yourself!!
www.ronpaul2008.com

If you have any questions, please contact me directly at CLLF5@aol.com

Thanks,
Karsten

[karsten5]

Wrong, I have been a meetup member for several years. Please note that is says August 18th, 2004.