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'Neo-nazis' storm anti-racism concert
www.thelocal.se ^ | 08/26/2007 | TT/The Local

Posted on 08/26/2007 7:02:49 AM PDT by WesternCulture

Ten youths were assaulted with sticks and glass bottles at an anti-racism concert in Farsta, in the south of Stockholm, on Saturday night. Police suspect that the attackers are neo-nazis.

Four of those injured required hospital treatment. One of them, an 18-year-old man, was taken to Karolinska university hospital in a serious condition.

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"He was hit on the back of the head with a baton and was then punched or kicked in the head," said police spokesman Gunnar Samuelsson.

Three other youths were taken to Söder hospital for treatment, though none had life-threatening injuries.

"We believe that the attackers are neo-nazis. We don't have any descriptions. Witnesses said that they had black masks on their faces," said Samuelsson.

The concert was part of a campaign against racism organised by the youth wing of the Left Party , the Young Left. Seluah Alsaati, the organisation's leader, was at the event at Tuben in Farsta. Along with ten other guests she was standing near the entrance at around 10pm when between 15 and 20 people wearing black charged at them.

"They begain throwing glass bottles at us and most of us tried to run up the stairs to safety," said Alsaati.

Several windows were smashed. Seluah Alsaati saw the injured 18-year-old lying unconscious and tried to pull him up the stairs.

"But it wasn't possible. They just continued to punch and kick him. It was really horrible," she said.

"I think it's obvious that it is nazis who were trying to scare us into silence. But those of us who were there just felt even more angry and more motivated to continue the fight against racism."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: antiracism; communism; europe; left; nazism; neonazism; paulestinians; racism; ronpaul; ronpaulsupporters; socialism; stockholm; sweden

1 posted on 08/26/2007 7:02:51 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
Neo-nazism is on the rise in Europe, but according to my watch it’s not even 1925 yet.

So why bother?

Young people have always been up to nonsense like this, haven’t they?

Despite being less middle age/less old and wise, less influential, less in possession of nice Audis, Beamers and Volvos, less aware and less experienced, young misguided Westerners actually are valuable.

To a great extent, they constitute a measurement of their parent’s ability of reaching insight as wise guardians of a true civilization.

Naturally, I don’t wish to defend Neo-Nazism, but I wish to ‘express concern’ (yes, it sounds pathetic to some I’d guess) over ‘misguided’, ‘frustrated’, young ‘failures’ of my own continent. Indeed, each individual’s life is what they make of it, but in most cases, your parents and your country actually influence your future more than average 15-25 year olds would wish to admit.

If you happen to view yourself as a person who’ve acquired a certain degree of wisdom here in life - share. Share excessively.

Today, some parts of Europe prosper while others still haven’t begun to recuperate from the evils of Communism.

The surplus wealth of the ‘wealthy’ parts of Europe badly needs to be invested in an increased capacity of (mainly industrial) production. Otherwise, Eastern Europe might as well return to barbarism and drinking vodka all day long again.

Fortunately enough, leading European CEO’s and such people share this view. Countries like Poland, the Baltic states and many others are presently developing rapidly. This process is truly enriching all of Europe.
But if this sound development does NOT continue, the world is in for severe trouble.

I believe a lot of ‘educated’ people underestimate the importance of Eastern Europe.

If Japan would collapse, it would actually mean less to the global economic scene than a collapse of Eastern Europe. Such a decline would lead to a Latin American-like corruption appearing on European soil.

Or horrors even worse.

Central/Eastern Europe does not need a second wave of Nazification.

Nazism stemmed from several different societal weaknesses like the economical disorders of a crushed post-war Germany together with strife between ethnic groups and the humiliation of having lost WWI. Add the shortsightedness of the Versailles Treaty.

Today, the EU is still the largest economy on earth, just like it was 1914 and 1939. It does no longer cripple itself by Versailles treaties, but by a fear of what Europe is able of achieving.

In glaring contrast to the US of today, Europe fears the role of leadership. In Europe, world leadership is widely associated with megalomania, destruction of human lives and scorched earth. In one way, this only natural. I have relatives who participated, at close range, in this... honestly, words fail me.

But personally, I think it’s time for Europe to pose the question to herself if the world would not fare better with a combined US-EU-East Asian Leadership.

Europeans of today often ask themselves “What IS ‘Europe’?”

Few Europeans realize it’s what we make of it.

Europe is not, chiefly, about what recently took place in magnificent cities like Dresden, Coventry, Warsaw and Stalingrad/Volgograd or places like Treblinka. This DID happen, but alongside with remembering this, let’s nourish that above all, Europe is about surviving such horrors and defiantly resurrecting the true beauty of the human soul.

At least, let’s try.

We Europeans ARE indeed very well educated, problem is we don’t make full use of this asset.

If Europe, anew, loses her faith in classical education, the world will suffer.

We can not afford another Hitler.

Uneducated and intellectually limited people often fear the very power of the human mind - for instance, Hitler more or less avoided the works of a ‘complicated’, superior mind like that of Beethoven (a true genius).

Hitler’s musical engagement never developed beyond the pubertal scope of worshiping Wagner’s pre-atonal cacophonies (if these words mean nothing to you, you are a lucky person).

Why did Wagner compose ‘music’ when he simply could’ve shot himself?

Anyhow, young people growing up in Europe of today must be offered alternatives to Nazism, Communism, Islam and PC ideologies.

Like the belief in future itself.

2 posted on 08/26/2007 7:04:25 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture
In glaring contrast to the US of today, Europe fears the role of leadership. In Europe, world leadership is widely associated with megalomania, destruction of human lives and scorched earth. In one way, this only natural. I have relatives who participated, at close range, in this... honestly, words fail me.

Not to worry. A "leader" named Mohammed is coming along to help you guys out of the doldrums.

3 posted on 08/26/2007 7:21:27 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: WesternCulture
Anyhow, young people growing up in Europe of today must be offered alternatives to Nazism, Communism, Islam and PC ideologies.

On a hill far away
Stood an old rugged cross...

4 posted on 08/26/2007 7:27:53 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: WesternCulture
Central/Eastern Europe does not need a second wave of Nazification

I have a tiny question....do they write articles like this when the Communists stage a demonstration?

Or is Communist violence and agitation "acceptable" and "normal"?

If a second wave of Nazification is bad, would a second wave of Communization be good?

Blaming Nazism on bad economic conditions is a superficial comment. The NSDAP coalesced as a counter to rising Communist agitation and violence in the early 1920's, before anyone expected the economy to be repaired after the war.

But no one ever writes about that.

The people causing trouble in Europe since the Paris Commune are relatively easy to identify. Note that the group that was attacked here identifies itself as the "Young Left".

What's interesting is that no one ever seems to point that out, especially not in the press.

Instead, articles get written about the inevitable backlash against them. And there the equation is always the same:

Left Wing violence - good

Right Wing violence - bad

Maybe we could start understanding that the first begets the second.

And ask why groups like the Young Left get a free pass when they start trying to rip apart European society.

Isn't the past 70 years evidence enough of who the real murderers and oppressors in Europe are?

5 posted on 08/26/2007 7:36:19 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: WesternCulture
Are they sure it wasn't a DNC voter drive?
6 posted on 08/26/2007 8:52:56 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: WesternCulture

“Neo-nazis”?

Were any of the “neo-nazis” of Arabic, or North African extraction perhaps?

Last year France was experiencing a wave of nasty anti-semitism, which sometimes was covered in the MSM as if it were a bunch of blond blue-eyed wannabe aryans.

Media liberals so very want that to be, they often seem to leave out details, which would indicate otherwise.


7 posted on 08/26/2007 9:03:11 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Communist China: Walmart's answer to that pesky 13th Amendment.)
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To: Regulator
It seemed to me that the anti-racist group was lead by a young woman whose name did not sound Swedish at all. I would guess that she was of North African or Middle Eastern heritage. There have been problems in Sweden, particularly in the South near Malmo, with NA/ME/South Asian men in particular. It may be that the neo-Nazis were Swedes, or possibly other nothern Europeans, attacking a group of young Muslims. I don’t think that Communism is involved in this one.

My personal experiences with followers of the Religion of Peace have not been very good. I’m single, and the men here in the U.S. sometimes do not behave in a respectful way of a single woman out and about. Some of them pretend not to even see us, which can pose problems in stores, etc. If there are Muslim men who wish to conform to Western standards in their behavior toward women, I’m asking them to stand up and be counted. But that’s just my view.

8 posted on 08/26/2007 9:24:11 AM PDT by oceanagirl
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To: WesternCulture
In glaring contrast to the US of today, Europe fears the role of leadership. In Europe, world leadership is widely associated with megalomania, destruction of human lives and scorched earth. In one way, this only natural. I have relatives who participated, at close range, in this... honestly, words fail me.

Defending the Walls has always been a very dirty and nasty business but somebody has to do it. If you do not, you die as a Civilization.

Europe now has the luxury of going about its business in the market place, the theaters, the banquet halls and the beer halls of the Fortress of Western Civilization while the Americans man the Walls.


9 posted on 08/26/2007 9:46:06 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: oceanagirl
It seemed to me that the anti-racist group was lead by a young woman whose name did not sound Swedish at all

That's true, but don't be mislead. Recall the organisers of the "anti-racism" get together:

The concert was part of a campaign against racism organised by the youth wing of the Left Party

The Left uses cover like this to gull the gullible. The Communists are merely using the epithet "racism" to serve a number of purposes: first, to paint themselves as egalitarians who merely advocate a Utopian Paradise; second, to silence native Swedes who see the Muslims as a legitimate threat by accusing them of racism if they speak out against Muslim colonization; and third, to gain the support of the Muslims themselves in an effort to build a wedge group that can be used as a physical and political threat to the native Swedes.

The threat is being carried out right now as we speak: The Muslim violence against Swedish women in Malmo is not random. It is a coordinated movement which is designed to force Swedish women into submission.

(this lovely pic from here: Drake's Drum Blog)

It may seem an odd alliance of the Muslims and Communists, but it is not, because both have something to gain from each other. Most importantly for the Communists is that they have an angry, sullen, alien and aggressive populace to do their dirty work for them. The fact that they have almost nothing in common ideologically is irrelevant - the Communists dangle the hope of political power to the Muslims. Recall that in South Africa, guys like Joe Slovo and the SA Communist Party were the ANC's biggest allies - but again, what did doctrinaire Marxism have to do with tribal power assertion? Nothing. But the ANC brought the Communists into power in South Africa, and the property confiscation goes on even as we speak.

The Muslims hungrily eye the Swedish land the same way...and the Left tells them it can be theirs if only they will unite.

The Left has always used immigration as a tool to force unwilling native populations to bend to their will. Since they usually can't convince rational people that their program is worth going along with, they bring in those who have everything to gain and nothing to lose to accomplish the theft.

And that is what is going on here. The guys who did the attack may in fact have been neo-Nazis, but again, the existence of groups like that in modern Europe has been typically a reaction to Leftist provocations and attempts at overthrow. Get rid of the Communists once and for all and the attendant problems go away.

10 posted on 08/26/2007 10:16:58 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: WesternCulture
Why did Wagner compose "music" when he simply could've shot himself?

LOL! I have always liked Brahms, myself. At its best, music should have a spiritual and intellectual dimension, not just emotional. And Wagner's music is so much superficial adolescent noise, it is no wonder the Nazis liked it.

11 posted on 08/26/2007 11:14:28 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: FARS; milford421; Founding Father; Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; CarolinaGOP

Ping.


12 posted on 08/26/2007 12:19:34 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (This is "Be an Angel Day", do something nice for someone today.)
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To: WesternCulture
They think it is obvious that it was Nazis? Um, the people who show up at every leftist rally wearing black and inciting violence, are the anarchists. I therefore return a Scottish "not proven", if all they have is somebody's guess.
13 posted on 08/26/2007 12:39:19 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Wilhelm Tell

“At its best, music should have a spiritual and intellectual dimension, not just emotional.”

- This is very true.


14 posted on 08/26/2007 1:19:27 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: Regulator

Thank you for your informative reply.

I am partially of Swedish extraction and have visited Sweden, including Malmo’s old town. It is a lovely country, and I would not want it taken over by the ROP. I have read here on FR that rape is a huge problem in Sweden and in Norway, but few want to talk about it. I also read that a couple of Swedish girls, well, teens, developed an anti-rape undergarment designed to be so complicated to open to discourage a rapist.

I also read that Swedish ambulances and firefighters cannot get into some neighborhoods of Malmo to help those in need because the locals chase them out with stones and other projectiles.

I myself have had a few run-ins with male ROPs here in the D.C. area. I am not young, but they seem to hate all females, and I have heard lots of stories from other women about problems. Here, no one will talk because they are all afraid of being called racists, and that’s Republicans, Democrats and everyone in between. I don’t want them to take our country. If they don’t like it here, they can leave. Do you think that they are incited by communists here in the U.S., as well?

Frankly, I am positive that the problems that we are having with Latin American radicalism is the work, at least in part, of communists. I’ve met some interesting people, and I know that deep underground communists were at work in West Texas in the late ‘70s. A friend with some contacts in the Catholic Church tells me that they are deeply embedded in southern Mexico, and are controlled by the Russians, who may no longer be communist, but hate us just the same.

Here in D.C., the news media doesn’t show what I have heard are shows of raised fists and red kerchiefs at the government meeting in the outlying suburbs that wish to eliminate the day worker pick-up sites and dwellings with a dozen illegals in them. The folks with the fists look like clones of Subcommandate Marcos.

I grew up in an area with lots of migrant Mexican and Mexican-American farmworkers. Many of the Mexican-American families settled out and became respectable members of the community. The school system is proud that the sons and daughers of those who settled down are now going to college.

But the Mexicans who are there now (and who I think are mostly illegal) are a different bunch. The are arrogant and nasty. They sneer at the locals, don’t make any effort to fit in, drive drunk and absolutely refuse to learn English. They have angered those in the community who previously treated the farmworkers fairly and gave them the benefit of the doubt. The newcomers don’t even look like the ones we saw in the ‘60s or ‘70s. I think that they are from central and southern Mexico and follow the Subcommandante. I also worry about MS-13 showing up, since there’s a drug problem now, too.

I am not nearly as conservative as most people here on many issues, but I am truly troubled by overwhelming legal and illegal immigration by people from cultures that are very, very different from ours and treat women, in particular, very poorly.

I have heard many conservatives say that the Constitution, which I dearly love, is not a suicide pact. They mean it in relation to wartime security measures, but I think that it also does not force us to suicide our culture, either.

Thank you for not calling me a fascist.


15 posted on 08/26/2007 8:13:03 PM PDT by oceanagirl
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To: oceanagirl

What did the Mexicans look like back then? Just curious


16 posted on 08/27/2007 12:04:51 PM PDT by tomjohn77
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To: tomjohn77

For one, they were quite a bit taller on average, and slimmer (but weren’t we all). Their legs were generally longer in comparison to their torsos. Their facial features looked as much Spanish as Native American—i.e., sharper features and longer heads with a more pronounced jaw line, on average.

Now, they look more like my wonderful hairdresser from the years when I live in the NYC area. She was Guatemalan who had married a U.S. serivceman stationed there. She was very short and a bit stocky, with short limbs, and different features—more blunt features and a rounder head. She was very attractive and a nice, nice person. Her husband was a lucky guy. However, she didn’t look European at all, unlike Vicente Fox, or Calderon, for example.


17 posted on 09/02/2007 10:09:35 AM PDT by oceanagirl
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To: oceanagirl
more “Mexicans” today are more likely southern Mexico or central America and of a squattier gene pool

not as handsome either

18 posted on 09/02/2007 10:13:51 AM PDT by wardaddy (the future of the West is bleak)
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To: wardaddy

That sums it up.


19 posted on 09/02/2007 12:03:27 PM PDT by oceanagirl
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