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To: DugwayDuke
I’m suprised that you would not notice that ‘centered on America’s interests’ is a phrase commonly used by paleo-conservatives and libertarians to refer to the ‘Jewish lobby that controls our national policy’.

So anyone that uses such statements could most likely be anti-semitic? That's rich. Unless you accept the role of empire, you hate people. To think that has always been the standard, well except for Democrats who used to always start the wars....What does that say about Junior who called for a 'more humble foreign policy' in his 2000 campaign? That would have been 'centered on America's interests'.

I guess then that you agree with the ‘truthers’ and Ron Paul that we were attacked because of our troops overseas?

So you discount the concept that every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction. Damn Iraqis. They should be thankful we're using our bombs on them...thankful!?!? They should be grateful.

When the police action in Iraq is over and Iraq evolves into a theocracy (if it doesn't fall apart altogether), will your excuse then be that if we stayed just a 'little longer' everything would have been okay as well?

In effect all we're doing is trying to keep together a nation that has only been in existence for 80+ years. And a nation that was created by outside forces. Keep it up. It will work this time...really it will....

72 posted on 08/26/2007 10:29:00 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears; DugwayDuke
So anyone that uses such statements could most likely be anti-semitic? That's rich.

I noticed that is this morning's disgusting and repeated ad nauseum tactic to try to shut down any conversation in the Paul threads.

75 posted on 08/26/2007 10:34:50 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: billbears

Only this time billbears, the Islamacists are attacking us throughout the globe, we cannot, indeed should not, merely pull stumps with a “lotsa luck ‘raqi’s, you’ll figure it out after the genocide is finished”.

That is were IMO, Ron Paul falls down so to speak, like it or not, we do have national interests in Iraq, and we also have a moral obligation not to leave the place in such a state.


82 posted on 08/26/2007 10:50:53 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: billbears
When the police action in Iraq is over and Iraq evolves into a theocracy (if it doesn't fall apart altogether), will your excuse then be that if we stayed just a 'little longer' everything would have been okay as well?

President Bush was right not to even go near the word "democracy" in Iraq for a long time. He spoke of "freedom"... but I guess he got confident after a year and a half and started with it. Well, if democracy means "being an enemy of America," I guess the neocons support it?

102 posted on 08/26/2007 12:19:23 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: billbears
When the police action in Iraq is over and Iraq evolves into a theocracy (if it doesn't fall apart altogether), will your excuse then be that if we stayed just a 'little longer' everything would have been okay as well?

President Bush was right not to even go near the word "democracy" in Iraq for a long time. He spoke of "freedom"... but I guess he got confident after a year and a half and started with it. Well, if democracy means "being an enemy of America," I guess the neocons support it?

105 posted on 08/26/2007 12:25:23 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: billbears

“So anyone that uses such statements could most likely be anti-semitic?”

I made no judgement about the motivation for the use of that phrase. I did point out it’s origin. Do you deny that the phrase ‘centered on America’s interests’ is a phrase commonly used by paleo-conservatives and libertarians to refer to the ‘Jewish lobby that controls our national policy’.

“So you discount the concept that every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction.”

Do you believe US foreign policy should be determined by those who murder innocent civilians?


128 posted on 08/26/2007 4:08:42 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul was for earmarks before he voted against them.)
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