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Dogged by oddballs
Toronto Sun ^ | 2007-08-25 | Michael Coren

Posted on 08/25/2007 4:12:15 AM PDT by Clive

Dogged by oddballs

By MICHAEL COREN

Last week I wrote a column arguing that people who are obsessed with animals to an extreme and irrational degree are mentally ill.

I wrote that we need to care about animals and should never abuse them, but that people matter more. Even bad people.

I would like to take this opportunity to apologize. I was wrong. People who treat animals as if they were human and have an animal rights fetish are not mentally ill. They are psychotic and dangerous.

In the past week I have received hundreds of supportive letters, but at least as many that disagreed. No, not disagreed. Perhaps 10% made some sort of argument, but the rest exhibited an anger, stupidity and sheer craziness that I have only previously encountered from neo-Nazis.

All of the e-mails I now present have been confirmed as genuine. I have retained the original spelling, but used asterisks in most of the foul language.

Bill wrote: "Someone who cares about something else is definitely not mentally ill. We are the voice of the other species, protecting them from insanity of the likes that froths from your venomous mouth. You shame all religious people with this column.

"Your self-serving, fanatic, lunatism, thankfully isn't mainstream in the Christian world of today and tomorrow. I really think that you should take your ugly faggot face and go to hell. But then again, people from your cult are to evil, even for hell. If it is a fact that peole who are cruel to animals go on to abuse women and children, you should be locked up ... with Bernardo. You two would probably have a great time comparing notes."

Liz wrote: "You've p***** me off several times before but never quite like this....Are not ALL creatures God's creatures??? Come on buddy, being the f***-head christian that you are, you should know this!!!...you go on believing that we humans are better than animals -- we are NOT, and you're the perfect example of how stupid MOST humans are.

"Oh and by the way, I have NO pets but unlike you god-fearing a*******, I treat ALL creatures, including us humans (and like it or not, we too ARE animals) with the same f****** dignity and respect.

"Go to hell you f****** no good for nothing piece of dumb a** s***!!!!"

Doreen was interesting. "You wil have a painfilled life now. We will find out were your children go to school, where you do shopping, everything. You will suffer."

Aggie agreed. "Now you will know what it is like to be a dog being abused you filthy Jew."

Then there was Drew. "i just finished reading your 'article' from saturdays sun where you refer to animal rights types as being mentally ill . just exactly who in the f*** do you think you are? animals have no rights?! i suppose you can justify micheal vick's actions of profiting from violent animal abuse as well, seeing as though you're so high and mighty. heres an idea, why dont you come over to my house and try to infringe on my dogs rights and see what happens you f****** dim witted piece of s***.".

In other words, the vast majority of people who wrote to oppose me were illiterate, abusive and nuts. Rather confirms my point really. And for that I sincerely thank them.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: animalrights; animalwhackos; michaelcoren
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1 posted on 08/25/2007 4:12:16 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

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2 posted on 08/25/2007 4:13:28 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive
If coren, or say kerry, or hildebeast, or biden, or osama bin hussein, or james carville, or ‘toon himself were drowning and my dog was drowning in the same pool... I would toss the dim a boulder and retrieve my beloved dog. Some PEOPLE are just not worth saving! Call me crazy... but there you have it!

LLS

3 posted on 08/25/2007 4:17:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Clive
“Then there was Drew. “i just finished reading your ‘article’ from saturdays sun where you refer to animal rights types as being mentally ill . just exactly who in the f*** do you think you are? animals have no rights?! i suppose you can justify micheal vick’s actions of profiting from violent animal abuse as well, seeing as though you’re so high and mighty. heres an idea, why dont you come over to my house and try to infringe on my dogs rights and see what happens you f****** dim witted piece of s***.”.

In other words, the vast majority of people who wrote to oppose me were illiterate, abusive and nuts. Rather confirms my point really. And for that I sincerely thank them.”

I would just love to see the author of this piece go to this fellow's house, knock on the door... and tell this man face-to-face that he thinks he is, “illiterate, abusive and nuts”. I think this author would be in for a real hardcore “education”!

LLS

4 posted on 08/25/2007 4:22:17 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Before calling Coren a "dim" perhaps you ought to read some of his columns.

Coren is a social and religious conservative.

5 posted on 08/25/2007 4:24:23 AM PDT by Clive
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To: LibLieSlayer
Call me crazy...

Well... I won't do that. The scenario of the Dem pussbags, Saddam and your dog is a bit bizarre though.

6 posted on 08/25/2007 4:32:33 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Clive
I would like to take this opportunity to apologize. I was wrong. People who treat animals as if they were human and have an animal rights fetish are not mentally ill. They are psychotic and dangerous.

Remember one thing. Dogs have masters. Cats have staff.

7 posted on 08/25/2007 4:43:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Clive

LOL! Did the guy really dare him to come over and “infringe on his dog’s rights”? HAHAHAHAHA! I don’t care who you are, that right thar is funny. The man was perfectly clear in that animals should not be abused or mistreated and was only saying some people take it much too far. Apparently, he was right. :)


8 posted on 08/25/2007 4:44:28 AM PDT by WildcatClan (If you're like me, and I know I am, you're voting for Hunter!)
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To: Clive

He certainly has leftist’s tendencies... which I do not tolerate very well.

LLS


9 posted on 08/25/2007 5:15:19 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: johnny7

My point was that evil people and their satan-directed lives are of questionable value to me. Not that I want harm to come to another American... I do not (terrorists not included)...even one’s that I have core disagreements with... but I do not think I would go out of my way to save any of them over something that I love and returns that love in such a special way. Dogs are my favorite “people”... dims... not so much.

LLS


10 posted on 08/25/2007 5:20:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
You might want to read the earlier article:

Doggone fools

A humane society officer (by law a peace officer) arrested a man for cruelty to an animal (leaving the animal in a closed vehicle on a hot day). Perfectly correct.

But then the officer handcuffed the man to a car door and left him to be assaulted by civilians.

The officer was properly punished but the animal rights activists are making a hero of him.

Coren objects.

I also object.

The earliest "law" book that I had read as a small child was my father's RCMP constable's manual. In that manual is is written "plain and clear" that once an arrest has been made, the arresting constable has a duty to ensure the safety and well being of his prisoner. This is trite law everywhere in the common law.

It is nothing to the point that the prisoner was arrested for cruelty to an animal or that the officer finds his conduct to be repugnant.

It is to the point that the officer ought to be properly punished according to law and ought not to be celebrated as a hero.

BTW, the constable's manual actually was a "crimson manual" as Robert Service referred to it in his poem "Clancy of the Mounted Police". The cover of the book was crimson.

11 posted on 08/25/2007 5:53:48 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

All very interesting... but you try to paint me as something that I am not. Sometimes the written word means exactly what it says... nothing more... nothing less.

LLS


12 posted on 08/25/2007 6:05:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Clive
...are not mentally ill. They are psychotic and dangerous.

Hmmm, "psychotic" is not a mental illness?

If one is not going to treat a pet like family, what's the point of having one.

13 posted on 08/25/2007 6:34:16 AM PDT by CPOSharky (An organization that kills those who do not believe it's dogma is NOT a religion.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Did you write that letter?


14 posted on 08/25/2007 6:56:55 AM PDT by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take your pick.)
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To: Clive
I have listened to Michael Coran for years. He is a very liberal “Christian”. He once said he could never vote for a Christian Conservative, he calls us right wingers. I would compare him to Tony Campolo (sp) he is what some might call a AZZZHOLE.
15 posted on 08/25/2007 6:59:01 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: Clive

Talk about a polarizing topic.My youngest sister recently shelled out $4k to have her cats(one of several felines)hip surgically repaired.For the record,i own a cat,and i’m an animal lover too,but four thousand dollars to repair a cats hip????She didn’t ask for my opinion,and of course i didn’t offer:)


16 posted on 08/25/2007 7:45:28 AM PDT by Thombo2
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...but four thousand dollars to repair a cats hip????

Seriously...Could you get me that doctors price for a human hip replacement? Thanks :-)

17 posted on 08/25/2007 7:53:36 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: JoeSixPack1

LOL.


18 posted on 08/25/2007 8:12:18 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: Thombo2
I think your sister’s choice is fine. People around me pay that much for stuff I NEVER would. Car, socializing, furniture, home improvement, vacation, clothing, drinking, lipo and other optional procedures, etc. I could not afford it but if they can swing it - so what? No matter what we would have done about it, it sounds like your sister has a good heart and puts her money where her mouth is. She sounds like good people to me.
19 posted on 08/25/2007 8:48:49 AM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: donna

No, I responded to the text above my words with:

“I would just love to see the author of this piece go to this fellow’s house, knock on the door... and tell this man face-to-face that he thinks he is, “illiterate, abusive and nuts”. I think this author would be in for a real hardcore “education”!”

LLS


20 posted on 08/25/2007 8:54:44 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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