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Would a Bush Bailout Save the GOP? (FreeRepublic cited)
US News & World Report ^ | August 24, 2007 | James Pethokoukis

Posted on 08/25/2007 12:09:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 08/25/2007 10:13:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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Bad idea.
1 posted on 08/25/2007 12:09:31 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

B U M P


2 posted on 08/25/2007 12:18:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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Not just bad, but terrible...

Why should the federal government bail out people who cannot afford their homes? Who bails them out next year and the next and the...

Look, people who can afford mortgage payments will pay them. Those who can’t won’t be able today, next month, next year or ten years from now.

Face the music. Get on with your life. Don’t be so gullible next time. Chalk it up to life experience.


3 posted on 08/25/2007 12:20:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bill Gross is self-identified “lib”-ertarian, who wants a bailout not for homeowners but for himself, as he is sitting on largest stockpile of US bonds - if interest rates are lowered by Fed, their value goes up and he stands to make a bundle in a very short period of time.


4 posted on 08/25/2007 12:21:27 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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No new amnesties. No new taxes. No new giveaways. No new bailouts. It's not yours to give.
5 posted on 08/25/2007 12:22:17 AM PDT by sourcery (fRed Dawn: Wednesday, 5 November 2008!)
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EXTREMELY bad Idea.

Dang. I don’t think I can highlight just one of those issues.

Nobody seems to be responsible for anything, anymore.

However, I’m responsible for my commas. ;o)


6 posted on 08/25/2007 12:26:43 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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B.S. panic alert from a dubious source; U.S. “liberal”
News and Socialist Report.

Bad timing as the July report shows a 2.8% jump
in new home starts. The sub-prime sector is nominal.
Sorry, Mr. Zuckerman. The pro-Clinton Article is hogwash!


7 posted on 08/25/2007 12:28:04 AM PDT by ChiMark
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Now PIMCO's Bill Gross, perhaps the most well-known bond fund manager in the world, is giving President Bush and the GOP some advice. He wants the government to start cutting checks to struggling homeowners

F#$% that.

8 posted on 08/25/2007 12:31:29 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (“Jesus Saves. Moses Delivers. Cthulu Reposesses...”)
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I for one would be outraged.

The people that bought these homes with nothing down have little to lose. That have little invested. On the other hand we have stupid lenders that lent money where they shouldn’t have and created this mess to begin with. They should pay the consequences. After all they did it in the first place to make more money. Their greed got them where they are. Now comes reality. To erase the consequences for their greed only invites more of the same at others expense. A big fat NO!

9 posted on 08/25/2007 12:34:29 AM PDT by DB
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To: ChiMark

thank you!


10 posted on 08/25/2007 12:35:03 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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Also, raises a spectre of chain reaction. If one is scraping to make payments and pay the mortgage, and his neighbor is at risk of default and gets a check from the government - what’s one to do, but apply for the same treatment or feel like a fool.

This is just a lame-brain idea, and since Bill Gross is not at all dumb and understands this will not happen, it’s simply designed to raise the noise level and sense of panic to try and make Fed lower the Fed funds rate, so he can make money on his bonds.


11 posted on 08/25/2007 12:37:10 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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Yes...some of us peons are watching. ;o)

Thank you!


12 posted on 08/25/2007 12:38:35 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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"This is your moment to one-up Barney Frank and the Democrats."

Good grief! Is this assclown Gross serious?
He wants the GOP to be more socialist than the rats and pander to society's losers in order to buy their votes??

(rubbing eyes) This HAS to be a joke.

13 posted on 08/25/2007 12:39:49 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Fred Thomspon v Obama or Hilary puts California in play, but trying to buy it is as useless as trying to ‘reach out to the Latino vote’ through amnesty.


14 posted on 08/25/2007 12:41:51 AM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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The only way the government can bail out the risk takers is by "printing more money". Printing more money = inflation. Inflcation = sucking the value out of every saved dollar (including all the dollars those Chinese are sitting on, BTW).

Meanwhile, wages and the cost of goods and services go up. This means that homeowners are now paying their mortgages with much cheaper dollars, which ain't so bad. Those sitting on money today are forced to invest in order to (hopefully) compensate for the ravages of inflation.

If I'm Bill Gates I don't care for it a bit. If I'm on a fixed income I feel vulnerable to the government's largess. If I'm Joe Sixpack I hate it - but only because I haven't thought it all the way through and hate watching prices go up. If I'm a business owner I just raise my prices (the very definition of inflation) - besides, it's great having all these rich investors looking good business opportunities.

Whether one should be concerned is simply a function of their circumstances.

15 posted on 08/25/2007 12:43:48 AM PDT by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: ChiMark

???
Did you read the article?


16 posted on 08/25/2007 12:45:53 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Gross knows very well that this would destroy the GOP, and he would money in the process.

Notice the ruse and the bait :

After all, "W," you're "the Decider," aren't you?"

Can skip the rest, anybody who does something like that doesn't have your best interests in mind.

17 posted on 08/25/2007 12:47:56 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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Seriously is this being illustrated as Bush winning/bailing out all the young voters involved in construction/mortgage/speculation business?

More so this is an argument on what level of risk the Government (ie/you and me) will back/buy.

Mae and Mac were well done. They are not the argument to add Curly in this market.


18 posted on 08/25/2007 12:51:45 AM PDT by SShultz460
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To: DB
What you said. Except even if the bad 'ol money boys were raking it in - they also sucked a lot of honest jobs in - just let it crash?

My advice to Bush: Jawbone the Fed to lower rates to give the economy a period to adjust - give it a soft landing - there are a lot of "innocents" that would be hurt as well in a crash.

Nite. ;-)

19 posted on 08/25/2007 12:52:05 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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I’m sorry however I voted for W twice

He (GW) needs to distance himself from the GOP and try to let us rebuild what he destroyed.


20 posted on 08/25/2007 1:06:12 AM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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